joining us is jonah goldberg national review senior editor and fox news contributor. much will this diagnosis and what happened on this sunday morning going to rise to the to which the media agenda? >> it has to. partly because donald trump will make it, politically fair game. >> nothing said so far. >> and, second, say that the new ammonian diagnosis is all there is to it and the other rumors are not true why did she not put it out proactively. >> we did not have the diagnosis. >> we were told she had a cough and she had not been diagnosed but they have a tendency behaving when there is a problem they turn on the smoke machine so people think there is fire and they are so secretive and protective of information that it makes the stories bigger than they need to be. all the media black out did not help. all the conservative media has been divided over donald trump candidacy for a year and sean hannity strongly becomes him let the fellow conservative pundits have it. >> let me say to all of and you that includes the commentator class, the jonah goldberg class, that inc

i will go to you first, jonah goldberg. what explains this enthusiasm gap?ct that both candidates that we have this year the two single most unpopular candidates in american political history. harris: why are they more excited about him, voters say they're voting for him seem to be more charged by his candidacy. >> first of all, hillary clinton is a met at that fiscally dull human being. she is lady who comes up to you says, there is no eating in the library. meanwhile donald trump is exciting. he is a big middle finger to the establishment. a lot of people gung-ho about that. there is lot of populist energy on the right. what all this points to the election will come down to contest of two things. is the enthusiasm for donald trump enough to swamp the fact that he has a terrible ground game set up. or is hillary clinton ground game enough to swamp the fact she is not an exciting person? i don't know the answer to that. kennedy: look at places like nevada and new hampshire. julie, why is the map slipping this way? because most unorthodox, unpredictable elect

our political panel is here from national review, jonah goldberg and from "the washington examiner" susanrechio. what leaped out at you as you looked at the numbers. >> i agree with tom bevan. it didn't move the needle much for trump. this is where he has been pretty much the whole race. he didn't do much during this debate. he didn't do what really he needed to do, which was break in to the undecided voters, break in to some of the people who he has not been able to bring on to his side. he had many opportunities to do that during the debate, he didn't do it. he got nowhere basically whereas clinton was able to, i don't think she had really an outstanding debate performance either. but she was pretty confident, adequate. she looked composed and able to avoid any of these attacks from trump that would have potentially wrought her numbers down. so she was able to win out a little bit. that's why we see the polls looking pretty tight. this 40%, i think it would take a lot to lose some of these 40%. we make the joke he could do just about anything and he would still be at 40 percent that deb

. >> listen, i said this to jonah goldberg and glenn beck. if she wins based on your constant barrage of attacks and not telling the story of what the choice is, then they own her. they own her supreme court choices. >> i don't want to hear complaints from them. don't complain about hillary. they should be honest and come out for hillary if trump is the bag guiy. they should actually explicitly come out and endorse hillary clinton. >>> coming up next right here on "hannity." >> the whole country saw how unfit she was at the town hall last night where she refused to take accountability for her failed policies in the middle east. >> donald trump slamming hillary clinton as unfit to be president. this comes as new polls show that the race for the white house has tightened quite a bit. we'll check in with the original insurgent, patrick j. buchanan. >>> and later hillary clinton is coming up with new excuses about a private e-mail server. we'll remind you about all the old excuses and all the lies she told you and much more on this busy edition o

today's #oneluckyguy, the furious, the fierce on twitter, editor of "the national review" jonah goldbergd. melissa: he is never furious. harris: good to have you. >> clarification. rich lowery is editor of "national review." i'm the lay about that sleeps on

now, you've got opposition from "wall street journal," nro, jonah goldberg, the glenn becks of the world, the mitt romney team in total, and some four presidential candidates that signed a pledge for you -- kasich, bush, lindsey graham and ted cruz. i'm a little pissed off at all these people because they're helping hillary. are you mad? >> well, yeah, of course. i mean they're absolutely helping hillary. if you're not voting for donald trump, you're basically voting for hillary clinton. look, you're right. it was a pledge, and it wasn't just a pledge. in some cases, it was a data exchange agreement where the candidates received valuable data and information in exchange for that information they agreed to support the nominee, whomever he or she was. and so i think they should honor the pledges, and i think that our state chairman and our committee people on the committee are going to review this situation, and there may be consequences in the future. but, look, i saw some polling that should give you a much better feeling about this. this cnn poll came out this week, had a much higher pe

now, you've got opposition from "wall street journal," nro, jonah goldberg, the glenn becks of the world, the mitt romney team in total, and some four presidential candidates that signed a pledge for you -- kasich, bush, lindsey graham and ted cruz. i'm a little pissed off at all these people because they're helping hillary. are you mad? >> well, yeah, of course. i mean they're absolutely helping hillary. if you're not voting for donald trump, you're basically voting for hillary clinton. look, you're right. it was a pledge, and it wasn't just a pledge. in some cases, it was a data exchange agreement where the candidates received valuable data and information in exchange for that information they agreed to support the nominee, whomever he or she was. and so i think they should honor the pledges, and i think that our state chairman and our committee people on the committee are going to review this situation, and there may be consequences in the future. but, look, i saw some polling that should give you a much better feeling about this. this cnn poll came out this week, had a much higher pe

i see jonah goldberg of national review similarly conservative at each other's throats over the trump's all over. does it come back together? >> probably not. i think that you -- you are seeing a genuine evolution into a new set of issues. a new set of principles. what are they. >> putting america first. a relentless, ruthless attitude that says show me a trade deal i want to see what's in it for america. show me a defense agreement like nato we spend 27% of the country an and other countries spend nothing. conservatism we were the biggest, richest country, we could afford to spend a lot of resources doing things. you find trump offensive on all sorts of fronts. you don't particularly like his style. i mean, if you are some intellectual who is used to sitting around drinking your cherry and talking in reasonable terms. >> we now know that just a little while we will hear it, mr. trump had make a speech in which he calls for a new entitlement or two. >> right. >> this is -- you just mentioned that we don't have the kind of money we used to have. the nation is very deep in debt we will

>> they definitely hear people like jonah goldberg, bill crystal, mike murphy who was on "meet the press" this morning with me. the never trumpers are small in number but large in voice and their never trumpism is amplified. does it matter in an election which is a tsunami, a ground shaking election? this morning on your program i predicted somewhat out there that by the end of the week the headline would be dead heat in pennsylvania and you noted correctly that pennsylvania has always been the foothold of the republicans charlie brown. this afternoon there's a new poll that shows hillary two points ahead of donald trump with him closing. so i don't think the never trumpers have any impact on the seismic nature of this election. >> on the other side of that, april ryan, you've seen these third-party candidates, gary johnson, who has the larger of the number, you would think in theory because he's a libertarian would be taken from donald trump. but you see the clinton camp fighting hard to peel particularly young voters away from these third-party candidates, away from gary johnson. what

martha: jonah goldberg, senior editor of "national review" and fox news contributor. welcome.d to have you here this morning. >> good morning, martha. martha: it is said, "wall street journal" reported a week ago 13% voters are undecided and likely to vote. they are really people candidates need to get to with this message in this time of unease about this attack. >> right. that is, that is why so difficult to -- sort of ghoulish but necessary to talk about how these terrible terrorist attacks a affect politics and all the rest. makes it so difficult to sort of figure it out or to parse it out because both of these candidates seem to be speaking to the voters that they have already gotten in their column. hillary clinton is making an anti-trump argument to people who already were going to vote for her. donald trump is making an anti-hillary argument to people already going to vote for him. people in the middle. 13%, difficult to see, figure out which, which message is going to win over the lion's share of that group. and, i think it's, sort of a jump ball at this point. i do t