today i'm in london speaking to jonah hill jeff veteran journalist and documentary writer who started his career it during the vietnam war john pilger thanks very much for talking to now let's talk about more media in general first if you don't mind recently in the website wiki leaks published tens of thousands of documents relating to the afghanistan war what do you think that is the biggest impact is that modern technology has had journalism well i think the wiki leaks exposed is. look like they might change journalism altogether if not change or wake it up. because what we should leaks has done is what journalists should have done. you know here here is this dreadful litany of years of all of disaster and killing in afghanistan and i'm in iraq. and i don't think we've gotten a sense they've got a sense of the disaster but i don't think we've got a sense of the real. the the political disaster the the behind the the human disaster in afghanistan that's what we can leak says has given us. i think it says to journalists. separate us separate you know so from the word of authority and