lauren: this is bulls & bears i'm lauren simonetti, and on the panel jonas max ferris, adam lashinskynd gary b. smith and we're speaking with national border patrol president, in just a moment but first to the panel, you heard this, liz, the president says we need to close the border do you think that's warranted? >> well i think we need a solution to the fact that our organization our establishment for reigning in collecting the people helping the people who are crossing the border illegally is completely overwhelmed for democrats to say there is no crisis at the border they should go down there, some have and they take a look and they're absolutely horrified. well we don't have the facilit ies to put up the people who are crossing at the border, it's just too many people, so we need to do something. i don't know if closing the border is the right thing to do. we've done it before under numerous presidents, in times of crisis. it does seem to me that we're getting to a crisis but by the way president trump is wrong to couple this with concerns about our trade balance in mexico, one h

jonas max ferris.re, i think this is great, i don't mind block grants from graham-cassidy, we should have across state health plans and savings accounts, yoke thatt think that anyone has nards to put it together on republican side. >> he one has, there is no up -- you know you can bring your car in after an accident, and then get car insurance and fix this, there is no cap, and you can't raise a rate, that is what obamacare is, i subside by highr taxes and insurance for life. if everyone has insurance it will work, 1 you take away that thing that you don't have to have insurance, but you can have preexisting conditions this impossible. >> it is so expensive, should every insurance company be forced to offer healthcare coverage for people with preexists conditioning. >> this is not a private marking concept, it is like forcing general motors to give you cars for a hundred dollars. kennedy: that would be great. >> this is why i guess they are trying to do before elect, it will spiral out of control. peop

/china trade deal with jonas ferris, a and tori whiting, good morning. >> good morning.t to ask tori, we had the advisors, a lot of them sounding optimistic. yesterday, president trump reiterated he would walk away from a deal if it wasn't favorable. what message is this sending to china? should china be worried right now. >> i think the president has made it very clear that he wants to get a good agreement with china. that's why these talks are still going on. and you're going to see from ustr today that they'll announce the next tranche of tariffs are going to be delayed until further notice. there's actually no deadline for this extension. that's a good thing. that means that the president's commit touchdown tpresident'sed- president's committed to getting the best deal he can, and hopefully that means he's exited to eliminating the tariffs imposed over the last year too. tracee: i want to get your take on this. are we going to get a market rally with these trade talks going on in florida? is this already kind of baked in? or will we see a major selloff if nothing hap

want to bring in bellpointe chief strategist david nelson and max funds.com founder jonas ferris.he let me start with you. housing start the missed the mark by a mile. consumer confidence down, not a biggie, because it wasn't down necessarily that much. but, where are we? how does the market interpret, you know, all these difficult shifting tide? >> you know we're basically at this tipping point of like, is this inverted yield curve a real inverted yield curve or like a fake news inverted yield curve which is kind of what goldman sachs says where this is not normal prerecession situation, rates are lower last year when the fed was raising rates which is another bizarre situation, now we're going into expectations of rate dropping. so basically investors are saying is it a soft landing, kind of a soft recession? with the current fiscal stimulus in the form of tax cuts and spending, probably more federal reserve stimulus coming very soon, is that enough to get us out of what wasn't probably going to be a very bad recession anyway to be good for stocks? it could go that way. investor

joining me on the panel to debate this and more, kristina partsinevelos, jonas max ferris, gary kaltbaum and adam washinski. >> we want to put the green new deal in. >> there's not enough about climate change. >> fossil fuel helps to power our world but are damaging our world at the same time. the temperature is rising rapidly. if we don't act now, we won't be able to fix our environmental issues. >> we are talking about bipolar weather conditions. yesterday it was bright, sunny and warm. today it's not going to get above 55. i'm shivering. david: a bipolar climate. that's interesting. guys, what do you think of all this? >> my brains are already fried by listening to that. >> oh, gosh. >> they could have spent the day at a boys and girls club or a children's hospital volunteering, helping people out. instead they are protesting because they are being told by other people that we can stop hurricanes and we can stop the cold, we can stop the hot and we can stop -- when we can't. they are all this oozes is a money grab. i wish this would end but i think we are just at the beginning and it'

hi everybody this is bulls & bears even david asman, joining me adam lashinsky, jonas max ferris and>> i've had many conversations with amazon, i hope, that they recoid

let's go to lauren simonnetty, jonas max ferris, and the plans seem to be for the candidates, go after they feel that corporate america is an endless piggy banks and we don't have to, and the ones that are hiring the students to pay back their loans seems to be a massive conflict. what you're really doing is transferring assets. so you're penalizing corporations that hire people and you're giving credit to universities and to student loan institutions that are creating basically undesirable talents and trading-- >> and keep listing those. >> obviously i'm a little biased because i think our corporate tax rates need to be similar to other countries for competitive reasons. the part i don't like about it, all of these points, well, we did the corporate tax cut, now a lot of the critics say it costs money. it does, it raises the deficit a little bit. therefore if we go back to where it was, it's new money to pay on student loans, if it goes to another social program, it would require another tax. a the least be your honest in your criticism of both and say that's got to go away to pay the

hi everybody this is bulls & bears even david asman, joining me adam lashinsky, jonas max ferris andy b. smith. >> i've had many conversations with amazon, i hope, that they reconsider. david: cuomo confirming that he has in fact been working behind the scenes over the past weeks to try to lure the tech giant back to manhattan making a personal plea to jeff bezos, reportedly guaranteeing support for the project, support that they didn't have, from very vocal critics, led by congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez that of course is the first time around the governor is saying today that there are "other ways" that the state can get it done that could bypass these critics and so far amazon has shown no sense that they will reconsider, after being driven out of town, at this point, is this just embarrassing? should new york just let all this go? what do you think? >> well look, i think it's a little bit embarrassing but i can understand after the crime we've been talking about for a couple weeks how disastrous this was for the economy of new york. it's not a killer, but look, they gave u

charles: jonas max ferris, thank you very much. it. >>> for more right now i want to bring in civic forum pac chairman ford o'connell. ford, yesterday, our morning meeting i think president trump needs to ground these planes but i also thought in my mind thinking back to the conference of business bigwigs with tim apple and others, we had tom donahue there the business roundtable, very influential, i could hear the large business leaders to the white house make sure you don't do anything boeing represents america. it is our largest exporter and it is sort of a proxy for american, how good we are, are you happy that he did this? was this the right thing to do in your mind? >> based on everything we've seen thus far it is absolutely the right thing to do. remember canada just grounded boeing, or the 73max 8 earlier today. frankly better to be safe than sorry. you have to worry about traveler concern. also the flight attendants, everyone else, all the unions involved in terms of the airlines. i think this is good move. hopefully a ver

break it all down, former federal reserve advisor, danielle dimartino booth, lindsey piegza, jonas max ferris and and let me start with you, danielle there was question marks with they go from two to one. wall street wanted zero. zero hikes rest of the year. >> more importantly, charles, only one for next year. this is more than the market anticipating by far. i think it is very pleasing. what investors had been wanting to hear. there was a lot priced into the market. i think they delivered. charles: that is what wall street wanted to hear. >> right. charles: you had misgives with this ultradovish fed. does this give you more anxiety. >> it doesn't give me more anxiety, chars, i think the economy will go into recession. as jay powell himself said the business cycle itself has not been repealed. we're coming up on the longest expansion in u.s. history as of june. at some point things will give. just look at fedex's announcement today. charles: lindsey, let me get your initial thoughts. as market starts to rebound. we're off 170 points and moving to the dow unchanged. >> i think this is a prett

joining me on the panel to debate this and more, kristina partsinevelos, jonas max ferris, gary kaltbaum