jonas ferris john layfield welcome everyone. lisa as we're seeing jobs coming back will this wage rage send the unemployment rates back up? >> it absolutely will. democrats are pushing this because it's a cheap political tactic to get low-income voters. that's what they're trying to do. when cash goes into one pocket it comes out of another. you're forcing businesses to increase costs, which will be passed to consumers, or lay off workers. >> that's totally inaccurate. corporations are hitting the highest profit margins every. they can pay their workers livable wages. nobody can support a family off $16 an hour. the cost of living is higher than ever. how do you get more profits? put money in the pockets of individuals who will spend money in the economy. that's how the economy is run. >> i'm not sure about some of that. most of the minimum wage workers don't support a family after four. >> most of the minimum wage workers aren't at these large corporations. i don't know if ibm has any minimum wage workers, for example. but the

jonas ferris john layfield welcome everyone.