jonathan, you say what? >> well, liz, it's obvious now is the time to scrap social security or at least the very bare minimum begin to transition out of it and go back to what we had before 1935 which was a private system where people actually saved for themselves. it isn't practical, it is importland moral, andimmoral, ar collapse. we spend more as a percentage on social security than we do on defense. that's actually in the constitution. there is no safety in the safety net. you just rattled off a whole long list of supposed benefits that are being either restricted or taken away. it's time to put this puppy to bed and trern to return to a pe capital system. >> does d.c. ever fix this or do you believe we should scrap it all together? can we do something like that? >> i don't think it matters what we think, quote unquote. this is a political reality. the congress does not have the courage to even get an adjustment to something that's going to be 20 years later. it ought to be done immediately. it should be

>> jonathan said something that i absolutely agree with. that is the media reflects what the public wants. in my view, the media, in general, feed a voracious appetite for vengeance by an informed public. often influenced by fear, prejudice, and ignorance. i think one of the reasons criminal defense lawyers argued so poorly is people do not understand the source of crime. they want simple, quick responses to a complicated long- term solutions. you cannot fight crime by doing what the governor is doing, cutting social services and building new prisons. [applause] you do not have to be a rocket scientist to understand. all of us who have been involved in the criminal-justice system know where people who commit crimes come from. they are poor people, people of color, victims of abuse, the mentally ill, people with substance abuse problems. there are the people that fall through the cracks of society. but that is the public read what the public wants and the public is understandably afraid because this is a real problem. then there are these pe

jonathan? >> well, about 75% of the countries that are going to be negatively impacted by the financial crisis, ah, in the developing world, are in a position with very limited choices. ah, they have very little fiscal space to actually provide for, ah, any kind of stimulus packages that we've seen in, in the industrialized world, in response to the crisis. ah, many of these countries depend heavily on remittance flows. ah, they depend on foreign and direct investment, portfolio flows, ah, and also foreign, ah, foreign aid, generally speaking, which now, given the rising unemployment levels in the industrialized world, may find it, um, it may be more difficult to actually continue with, ah, addressing, foreign aid, in these countries, because they're facing competing, um, policy choices, ah, in, in, the united states, in europe, um, in terms of the unemployment at home. this makes it a much more difficult environment, ah, particularly when these countries are going to be facing rising, um, unce

>>jonathan: they do.tower of london and pick out what he wants and i am sure he has a few pounds he could spend if he needed. but someone said have you seen that ring, and it is a huge safire surrounded by diamond and cost $28,000 pound, $45,000 in 1981 so it is worth a few pounds now. and someone, a listener said if he is invited he doesn't want to fly because he don't want to have his "junk touched." >>shepard: i was impressed by the redskins last night. >>jonathan: a lot of people talking about that. a great moment in redskins history. they will not change until snyder is no longer the owner. fire snyder. >>shepard: michael vick was unstoppable with a record breaking performance. michael vick, you got to give something to someone who picks himself up, and my goodness if you didn't see it we will show it. coming up. funny how nature just knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxid

>>jonathan: we are 50/50.say the federal government has invade the our private lives and know through want to invade our underwear and some say we need this, we need to feel safe. >>shepard: well, i don't know if junk touching makes me feel better. >>jonathan: it makes me feel better. ship wouldn't you like to choose who does it? been to t.s.a. lately? if you don't know them, is my point, you have never met these people, this is now how i would choose to meet people. >>jonathan: junk touching strangers is a bizarre way of. much. touching. shipship urgely --ship usually you have coffee first. >>jonathan: and your kids are going through or your 1-year-old daughter and you are going to do what now? i don't want my daughter radiated or for you to have a picture of her and i dam sure don't want you to town her in a way that only her doctors do. >>jonathan: a lost people are concerned about that. >>shepard: the homeland security secretary says they are willing to listen >>jonathan: we will try out a lot of different

jonathan blum joins us live from sfo tonight how busy is and how jonathan? >> well pam it's been a steady clip all day in fact if you look behind me you see the security lined things are not backed up but there certainly hasn't been at deal afternoon. we'll show you video from earlier today when people going through the new body scanners for the first time or becoming familiar with the procedure and there's so much to do with security now you have to come to the beginning of the line and show some of your to get an id that you take your shoes off put your laptop in the tub and camcorder on the top take your shoes off step into the body scanner put your arms in the air and let me tell you that faces that we've been seeing of

jonathan hunt, who ordered this strike and why? >>jonathan: according to the experts, kim chong-il will have had to approve it despite his sickness, nothing happens in north korea without him giving the go ahead. i spoke to a leading expert on my show and he said what we are probably looking at here is as kim chong-il begins to fade in terms of health, the senior military figures asserting their power. listen. >> he is essentially having to give power to the more militant elements in his regime and the military has enormous authority but now getting more as kim chong-il starts to fade from the scene so we see the militarization of north korean policy. >>jonathan: and he said that is a very dangerous militarization and he believes we are likely to see more of these kind of acts of aggression >>shepard: what role is kim the young are playing, do we know? >>jonathan: with north korea we do not have a way to know. but when we turn to experts he is saying kim chong-il is probably not taking an active role in the decisionmaking. he is, i

fih+-- jonathan spoke to it as. we have to make the á discussioa broader discussion, so that people understand how it affects their daily lives, how it affects the way government works. is there going to be money, our state parks going to be open, money for education? what does this say about the state of california, where i believe the largest union is not the teachers' association, but the correctional officers association? what does that say about a society? when people find out about that, they are stunned. but that is the reality. that is what is playing on people's minds, fear, prejudice, ignorance. >> this also points to the fact of what we have to do in each individual case. that is what you're up against. and when you are in trial, the priority is your client, which is different from broadcast journalism, television drum up. -- drama. >> but you cannot turn a blind eye to it. >> that question is deeply troubling when you look at certain cases. there are certain cases where it is a no-win situation. the robe

ask jonathan a question. today, how would you cast for the role of a criminal defense attorney for television? >> i have had the pleasure of doing that twice. i created two series that nobody really watch. i have had the experience on two separate occasions, sitting with casting directors, trying to cast the role of defense lawyer. it is interesting, a defense lawyer can look american. kathy bates is playing one. jimmy smits is planning one. they focus group test television shows, like they do with new car models. the companies that do that work are the same month that two mock jury trials. so your audience is also a jury pool. a defense lawyer are all the ones that you would imagine if you were describing gregory peck. someone with high integrity, someone who will do anything it takes to win. they do not have an expectation of what they need to look like. but those qualities seem to be universal. those have not changed. those are the same qualities they were looking for when perry mason was popular. old, tra

jonathan blum is live. what is happening there. >> jonathan? >> remember, when used to these heartwarming stories of of people eating turkey? and perhaps these have foregone the turkeys and waiting for best buys. and by the way? they're not going to be open until 5:00 a.m. and today is the coldest day yet, this fall season. and to layer with coats, scarves, hats, and the plan on staying here all night long. the tents are all are around the store, and people that are still even out? from past experience, there will be hundreds of people in front of you. and people are just good to get here early. some people are here for amazing deals on a flat screen, and a laptop, and even for college, and even get some really cool head phones and this is what one guy said about those. >> it is freezing. >> you are going to stay out here all night? >> yes, probably to stay out of with my friends. >> why? >> we are having some fun, basketball, supporting. >> do you know what you are going to get a 5:00 a.m.?, i'm going to get the dr j beach headphones. and $159

i love jonathan richman.know who jonathan -- some people might not -- the name -- recognition, jonathan richman was in the modern lovers. this punk band, they had some songs like "road runner," "pablo picasso." but, most famously, probably, you know him as the guy who would hang out in the tree and narrate "there's something about mary." ♪ mary there's just something about ♪ yeah, he's so good. but, i mean, gosh, he has so many good songs. one of my favorites, "i was dancing at a lesbian bar," it's a great song. [ light laughter ] and then he has "that summer feeling." know that song? download it. it is good. [ light laughter ] again, i'm not talking about richard simmons. he's not on the show. >> steve: aw. >> jimmy: you should download it, though. it's really good. but, he's going to be here. jonathan richman is here tonight, jamming out for you. [ cheers and applause ] it's going to be so fun. ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the election day eve edition of "if puppies could vote." [ cheers and applause

jonathan, how did he do? >> well, didn't do so hot. he was going to south korea hoping that he would come back with a deal in hand, that they would be able -- he'd be standing with the south korean leader and say, voila, here's the deal. it did not happen. after the midterm elections we've seen this before. american presidents go abroad when things go south electorally at home. to leave south korea sort of empty-handed is bad. but there's still time to get this done. >> that's the art ugument he ma. >> it needed to be a quick win to change the narrative because the narrative now is obama lost the election because the economy is bad and he didn't have the solutions to fix it. this would have been a quick way to say we're going to bring tens of thousands of jobs particularly to the ought motic sector. particularly in the midwest is where they saw big losses. this would have been a great win for him and it's unfortunate for the obama administration that it's going to take longer to get it. >> how much do you think this has to do with the

jonathan martin?ertainly mitch daniels from indiana and governor barbour are two governors that you have to keep an eye on. down the road don't keep your eye off of bobby jindal of louisiana. >> bobby jindal. thank you. >> he's young. but down the road, snoou john fee here, jonathan martin, thank you. >>> what i need to see to be convinced that the economy's getting strong again. you're watching "hardball." ♪ ...and brains. ♪ a phone that gets you to the stuff you love faster. only from at&t. rethink possible. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. from new car replacement and guaranteed repairs to accident forgiveness, we do all we can to help you move on. liberty mutual auto insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? [ male announcer ] it's luxury with fire in its veins. bold. daring. capable of moving your soul. ♪ and that's even before you drop your foot on the pedal. ♪ the new 2011 cts coupe from cadillac. the new standard of the world. if you live for performance, upgrade to castrol edge

. >> jonathan soffer fisa c. tester professor of you new york university polytechnic institute assesses the mayor of new york city from 1978 to 1989. he recalls that determine the year political career and the redevelopment plans that the former mayor put forward throughout his time in office. jonathan soffer is joined by ed koch at an event held by the museum in new york city. the program is one hour and 20 minutes. [applause] >> thank you for joining us a dislike for the national park service in new york and one of the great treasures of new york city. let me first introduce jonathan soffer. he grew up in albany and had the wisdom to mention manhattan to attend columbia. he joined the broadway democrats, which endorsed ballan in 1977. [laughter] certain things may be forgiven. he got his doctorate from columbia and now teaches history at nyu polytechnic institute. i realize not long ago that if we start with henry hudson's foliage nearly 400 years ago, i've been covering the york city for more than 10% of its r

>>trace: thank you, jonathan. and our correspondent is chatting about the top stories on foxnews.com/shep. you can join the conversation by clicking "on the hunt," on the right. that is foxnews.com/shep. there is word today that police have identified the remains of a disabled girl who went missing more than a month ago. she is ten-year-old zaire a baker who lost her leg and hearing after a battle with bone cancer. investigators expected to make an official announcement later this afternoon and it come as day after they said they found a key piece of evidence at the bottom of a creek. her family reported her missing in early october under unusual circumstances. police say someone reported a fire at the home that same morning and we're toll the gill's step mother admitted to leaving a bogus ransom note at the scene. a new threat from al qaeda, a terrorist leader osama bin laden has appointed a new commander in charge of stepping up attacks against the west. he is, officials say, linked to the deadly u.s. embassy bo

how does a look jonathan? >> half trend is for the first time starting to thin out.e need not very likely. the traffic at the bus station has been so heavy that it was played the line from the bart station was all the way back there into the mall. you can still see the prevailing color near the bart station is orange with lots of black as of course jury you can see however lot of them did not expect these sorts of lines because the waiting room by the tick machine in some cases trying to figure out how to use them. some fans told us they were really annoyed by the lines but most of them said it's the price you pay to experience a historic event like this. the one of traded it for the world. a lot of people brought their kids out in strollers were causing an issue because it was so packed to the were no place to put them. even though it's mostly a giants fan here the crowd is finally starting to thin out and people are finally starting to get home after in some cases camping out in the wall for two hours just waiting for the machines to be available. live in san franc

jonathan bloom, kron 4 news. >>> we are in for a chilly night tonight. things are getting on the cold side. 42 in napa. 42 santa rosa. lot of 40s out there right now and gets even cooler. frost advisory for the north bay right now. napa looks like it will have freeze. 42 degrees in napa. chilly and cold throughout the bay area tomorrow morning into the afternoon. increasing cloud cover. >>> heads up if you are driving over the san mateo brin tonight or tomorrow morning, one westbound lane is shut down till 4:00 a.m. tomorrow. crews are checking on a spot that was recently repaired. a crew discovered a massive crack, the crack was patched up with plates of steels. tonight they are keeping on eye on the patch work to see how well it holds. a official said it costs more than a million dollars to fix. the money spent on the work is not expected to effect other projects such as the bay bridge repair. >>> an ex-con released from prison under arrest again in connection with a murder of this woman. a look at how the suspect may have used a recent tragedy in san

. >> jonathan bloom attended the meeting. >> reporter: we caught up with the police chief who gave us 3 minutes to ask questions. he talked about the murder rate and how the police department is dealing with deep budget cuts. >> murder rate is sniffling down. my focus was to reduce to a number from 60 from a number of 109 from last year. the layoffs impacted our productivity as a whole and we are at 72 now. >> reporter: that murder happened in front of the church where he meets with the pastor to talk about curving crime. he wants the meeting to be an example for officers. >> one of the things i want officers to do is follow up on issues. we still can't do commute policing. you don't have a choice. the way you get information from people, you have to have relationships. you have to get out and listen to your customer. >> reporter: community policing is a long ranged plan that won't change even as oakland gets a new mayor. >> we have a plan where we have authorized, so i don't think that changes and that's why you have plan, it's long ranged. i met with the mayor yesterday, she said we

until then, kron 4's jonathan bloom tells us the students will continue to voice their opposition. >>> the police kept everyone out from attending this meeting and people were outraged and they created such a stir that after one began using a barricade as a weapon, police fought back. >> i felt like it was going on for quite a while. i lost track of time. there was no warning. >> feels like a chemical burn that doesn't stop. >> reporter: he thinks police used excessive force. but when he showed our video to the chief, she disagreed. >> the officers were holding the line. baton is used for that purpose. >> reporter: most were out on bail several hours later. >> they arrested some people and i was one of them. we will have a court date and we will make sure the charges are drop. >> he tried to hold a second rally at uc berkeley. few people showed up and the rally was canceled. the message remains, college should not be the for rich and the university's promise of more financial aid is simply a ban aid over a bigger issue. >> does not solve the issue. it's a right. we cannot have them at

i think he's going to be president. >> jonathan martin?tch daniels from indiana and{ governor barbour are two governors to keep an eye on. and don't keep your eye off bobby jindal. >> when we return, we'll have thoughts on what i need to see to be convinced the economy is getting strong again. [ female announcer ] we were flattered when regenerist beat a $100 cream. flabbergasted when we creamed a $500 cream! for under $30 regenerist micro-sculpting cream hydrates better than 23 of america's most expensive luxury creams. fantastic. phenomenal. regenerist. >>> finally tonight, a word about the economy. every at a offers yet another of economic indises to examine. i have a hard time distinguishing gdp from my gps. i hope that the economy is turning around but i need results i can see, touch, appreciate. i've developed my own list of economic indicators that will suggest things have turned a corner. less pessimism. when jim cramer and the other financial gurus say we're on our way back, we really will be. my wife and mother are realtors. they

kron 4's jonathan bloom has a warning. >> we woke up with my son complaining that he needed to vomit. we thought nothing of it. >> reporter: when his wife found their other son passed out, she figured both were sick but then mom and dad started feeling it too. >> she walked in and said she started feeling dizzy. last thing i remember my wife pulling my arm telling me to wake up. when she saw me on the ground, first thing she thought of was carbon monoxide poisoning. get out and she started crying and panicking. so she basically dragged me outside, i don't remember how i got outside. >> reporter: his wife called 911 then called the neighbors to help carry their son out of the house. this leaky furnace filled the house with carbon monoxide and was slowly poisoning the family while they left. after six hours in the hospital he took the family to costco and came back with this carbon monoxide alarm. for now had heat is turned off. now for the heat is turned off. everyone is feeling a lot better, including the dogs. jonathan bloom, kron 4 news. >>> this is the scene to the east. 9 feet of

jonathan bloom, kron 4 news. >>> still ahead, a lame duck congress plans for its final days, a man is killed in a wood chipper accident and a giant wins one of basketball's top awards. those are some of the story still ahead on kron 4 news at 11:00. no, sir . >>> the halls of the capital were crowded today. membersmembers of new congress arrived for orientation. >> reporter: the freshman class posed for their pictures. their first order of business might be taking on the old business. first, spending. none of the bills to fund the federal government passed. number one on the list, extend the bush era tax cuts. if there is no agreement they expire at the end of the year so do a host of tax breaks. without actions doctors see medicare compensation drop. all of this has to happen in four weeks. congress meets this week before taking thanksgiving week off. it will continue to work until it completes its business but not beyond christmas eve. they are willing to agree to one of the aims of the teem movement. mitch mcconnell reversed his position today, he says he will support legislation t

the government which dominates this like jonathan says.here's a private company coming in and giving us low cost health care. that should happen more and more. not just wal-mart but more and more companies. competition in the free market is going to create the best product for the consumer at the cheapest price. >> hard to argue with wal-mart particularly when it comes to prescription drugs, two dollars, four dollars. they've changed the face of prescription drug coverage. >> if you live near a wal-mart and use the drugs that are part of their plan this is great for you and wonderful and i'm glad this option is available. let's not get it wrong. private insurance industry increases at 10% this year. medicare rates 6%. clearly government is more cost-effective this is a false argument. the wal-mart plan is part of the medicare part d program this is something where government and private industry are working together to bring low cost to consumers. >> this is a historical moment. i've never heard anyone say the government is more cost-effec

>> reporter: in san francisco, jonathan bloom, kron 4 news. >>> new detames on the gang rape.he eight day of hearings with testimony from a key investigator. the focus, the involvement of the 7 suspects who range in age from 16-43. 23467 dan kerman has detail -- kron 4's dan kerman has the details. >> reporter: 7 suspects are accused of raping a 16-year-old girl. returning to the stand was ken greco who interviewed the victims. during the examination, the attorney for jose tried to suggest statements that a his manic man tried to have intercourse with the victim may not point to her client but to elvis torrentes. or possibly to someone else. another police officer testified he was part of the team that collected hair samples as well as clothing and swab samples fall manuel ortega. this hearing is expected to last at least two more weeks. dan kerman, kron 4 news. >>> if you have been outside and even if you haven't, you noticed how cool it is. temperatures already in the 30s in a number of spots. fairfield one degrees above freezing. 37 napa. 37 santa rosa. 39 red wood city. 38

jonathan bloom, kron 4 news. >>> it was sunny and mild this afternoon, temperatures in the 60s. although we saw 71 in santa rosa. 69 mountain view. we will see a warming friend for the weekend. overnight temperatures are warmer as we have warmer air mass over us. temperatures in the 40 said tomorrow. although the north bay will hang on to the upper 30s. warming up quickly into noon. by 35:00 degrees warmer. there will be breezy. >>> for the second day in a row dozens of people protest the police shooting of an unarmed black man. what the protesters are demanding, and also the quarter.eginning of the 3rd joey came over to watch the game when the storm rolled in. in through the ceiling. i switched to mercury to save on car insurance, boy am i glad they cover my home too. they fixed the ceiling, replaced the couch, they even cleaned the carpets. wish they would have cleaned this up. you know, like a makeover. save up to 15% when you combine your auto with home or renter's policy. get a fast free quote at mercuryinsurance.com >>> so we deman the names be released immediately. we dem

kron 4's jonathan bloom has the details in today's top story. >> reporter: things are back to normal but protesters managed to shut the station down for an hour. they plan to hold more demonstrations and possibly shut down more bart stations. the marchers carried signs and banners slamming the oakland police department, the officers who come in to escort them off the street. >> we learned about the protist last night and had to call officers. >> reporter: chp officers blocked the free way onramps. police shut down it station as soon as they arrived. they say it was just a precaution. no injuries or arrests but there was a lot of yelling about the death of derrick jones by two police officers. >> there are two police officers. we don't know their names yet. officers, do you know their names? >> we don't release the names that soon. it would be putting those officers in danger. >> many more days. [ indiscernible ] >> reporter: that'soverer grant's uncle. >> if they want to shut down stations, i don't think we will allow that. >> reporter: bort provided bus shuttles to get riders to oth