jonathan? nx's kristen welker. >>> the question remains, does the president's ideas to jump start the economy and does have the political will to push them through a divided and stubborn congress. ezra klein is a analyst for msnbc, and colleague at the washington post. >> hi, jonathan. >> let me play part of what the president said on thursday, and get you the respond. take a look. >> over the coming weeks, i will be putting out more proposals week by week to help businesses hire and put people wac to work. bsh people back to work. i will keep at it until every single american who wants a job can find one. >> so, ezra, is this too little too late, and something he should have been focused on a year ago? >> yeah. this is quite a little bit too old too late. the administration has not used the points of leverage to fight for jobs, and now it doesn't have any. so during the debt ceiling talks said, a super committee, we won't do it unless it is charged, forced to offer up recommendation for jobs,

>> great points, as always, jonath jonathan.ime to talk. >> a lot of time, looking at the clock. >> i love to talk to you, jonathan capehart. it rick perry playing to his base when he's sort of throwing these things out and violating capehart's rules or making a mistake and this is first week errors on the national theater, or is it both? what's your take? >> i think it's both. look, the tea party, the tea party is base is fueling the energy behind the republican party. they've spent the last two years questioning the citizenship and the love of the country that president obama has. two, by, you know, saying that members of of the military would want to serve, would rather serve under a commander in chief who's ban veteran that plays well with the tea party base and the republican base. to you know, say what he said about -- calling fed chairman ben bernanke possibly treasonous, and the, you know, some of the other things he said. just yesterday, evolution and creationism. that all plays well. now, this is why these are all rook

jonathan? >> well, kristen, tim geithner announced over to the weekend or maybe the white house did over the weekend that he was staying after rumors went out there earlier in the month or late last month that he was going to leaf. any sen any sense of how strong the arm twisting was for tim geithner to hang on through 22012? >> well, we don't have any information on the internal pressure, but the white house spokesman came out, jay carney, saying that it will provide the stability that the white house is very good move to have, and as you know, some people have called for the treasury secretary to go. but given all of the turmoil in the markets right now, the white house certainly saying that this is a good thing, jonathan. >> and kristen, we know that schedules and particularly presidential schedules are up in the air, but do you know of any other meetings scheduled for the rest of the week related to the economy? do we have a sense that the president and the administration really is trying t

jonathan, i know you've heard the story. lyndon johnson talking to sam rayburn and sam rayburn was saying... lyndon was saying he'd been to his first cabinet meeting and he met robert mcnara and he went to sam rayburn and said "the smartest one there is the guy with the comb in his hair. he's smart." and sam rayburn said "i just one time wish he had run for dogcatcher." so politics matter and the capacity to understand where america is and how you can influence america and move it. but that's also what we expect from our best presidents, the pacity to use leadership to bring the people to demand policy reversals and policy change. i'll leave it at that. thank you. >> i was going to say, charlie, that what i've learned from this aside from some really, really art analysis by smart speak that i'm going to have to run for dog catch sore fareed n never accuse me again of being a professor who's never run for dogcatcher. >> i was trying to put anymore the company of sam rayburn when i hold that story. >> i areciate that! >> rose:

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jonathan? >> the white house taking questions today about whether he's planning to go to martha's vineyard with his family for vacation. press secretary jay carney said no one would begrudge the president time away from his family. but i frankly think some would. what are you hearing? >> reporter: a lot of members of the president's own party the democrats are criticizing the president saying he hasn't shown enough leadership given the volatile markets, the downgrade. even had maureen dowd come out today and saying some of his constituents are disillusioned with him. certainly some democrats won't be satisfied by that answer. having said that, the white house is pushing back this afternoon saying, look, the presidency travels with mr. obama wherever he goes so he can be in martha's vineyard and working on this issue. they also point to the fact that he's focusing on the economy, jobs right now 24/7. we learned that a little later on this afternoon he'll be meeting with fed chair ben bernanke, t

jonathan? >> well, we have just seen, kristen, a fiery obama, an unlike in previous weeks so is this is a preview of what is to come in september when he is back and congress is back from vacation? >> well, it definitely could be. again, he has gotten this criticism that he is not taking the reins here when we are seeing the volatility in the markets, and people in his own party saying that they have been disillusioned by him, and what you saw today was a very fiery president obama, and someone who is saying that i certainly am in charge of this situation. will he get some pushback? we will have to wait and see, and as you know, there is a lot of talk about his vacation to martha's vineyard and some people saying he should not be taking a vacation in the midst of this economic crisis. well, the white house says, look, no one would begrudge the president some time with his family and quite frankly, the office of the presidency travels with mr. obama and having said that, we have to see what the

>> well, jonathan, the wild gyrations in the market that andy was describing shows that the market are trying to figure out what is going on just like we are. they don't have a better or clearer picture than anybody else. i do think that some in the markets wanted to see the fed act more decisively and go with a quantitative easing of qe-3 to pump more cheap money or long-term money into the economy and the counter pressures you saw to that, and you will see that the dissents, and the planting of the seeds of future inflation and driving down to value of the dollar and all of those things are forces acting on ben bernanke, and signalling that he is going to keep the rates low for an extended period of time through 2013, they are at least signaling the fact that they get the economic outlook has gotten bleaker and left open the possibility they will take more decisive steps down the line. >> let's talk about the political outlook and what is the stance now in washington? because some are calling for congress to come back to work now, and is that what is needed? >> well, i'm not sure wha

>> jonathan, mark, did you guys hear this, that syria, the crackdown is over? imogen and i were celebrating. >> let freedom ring. >> the freedom bell is ringing. the only way i can see a crackdown ending in syria is because they've killed everybody, so now it's over, so they allowed a change in the government, yet neither thing happened. i can't reconcile this statement. >> obviously we don't know fundamentally we don't know. we don't have the media inside syria. it's all, as clinton was talking about, with what's happening, it's very important that the pressure from the near neighbors. >> so you're saying the stakes are with saudi arabia and turkey to make peace in syria? >> well, to move things forward, absolutely. >> how much political risk does the president have by ignoring what's going on because of the intensity he has to deal with here from debt to jobs? >> i can tell you one thing for slur, the reason there is a pause is simply because they're reloading. >> terrible. >> they're reloading. >> the problem for obama in syria is that it demonstrates as viv

jonathan hunt live in the suburb of long beach. we're following the issue with this dam up in the catskills. level "b" emergency going on. governor of new jersey multiple billions of dollars of damage, potentially tens of billions of dollars. that is quote from the governor of new jersey. 15 deaths are confirmed and a man who calls himself idiot in austin says it's a tea cup. unde. i found out that connected to our muscles are nerves that send messages through the body. my doctor diagnosed it asibromyalgia -- thought to be the result of overactive nerves that cause chronic, widespread pain. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i learned lyrica n provide significant relief from fibromyalgia pain. and less pain means, i can feel better and do more of what matters. [ female announcer ] lyrica is not for everyone. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell yo doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior, or any swelling or affected br

so, they will try to grab that. >> and jonathan, you were laughing at that? >> yes. we had a balanced budget amendment when we were losing close to 800,000 jobs a month and headed for another great depression, and by speaker boehner's terms we wouldn't have had any government effort to help end -- >> nothing. >> -- that end depression and does he think that the country would have been better off if the congress had been handcuffed and unable to take any measures to fight a coming depression? i think that we would be in a depression right now if there had been a balanced budget amendment in 2009. >> indeed, jonathan alter, and luke russert and >>> i'm brian sullivan with a cnbc market wrap and stocks all over the map as we await the big debt ceiling vote. the dow swarm add total of 284 points up today triple digits at the open and fell triple digits reaching the 12,000 mark earlier in the session. now we have stabilized a bit. up 3.5 points. again, martin, all ahead of that debt ceiling. the market clearly not knowing which way to go. a wild day, kind of emphasizes wh

the fox chief correspondent jonathan hunt is in new york city. what else do we know about the three who died? >>jonathan: just before this incident they left a mosque where they were taking part in ramadan prayers and they joined many other members of their local asian and muslim community to protect their businesses and homes. a car, then, suddenly came hurdling toward them with racial abuse according to some witnesses being shouted from that vehicle, and all three men were hit and they suffered fatal injuries. the father of one of them talked about the senselessness of this today. >> my face is covered in blood, my hands were covered in blood. why? why? why? the guy who killed him drove directly into the crowd and killed three innocent guys. why? what was the point of doing that? i don't understand. >>jonathan: the father appealed for calm and asked everyone in the community to remain if their homes tonight. >>shepard: there are concerns i'm reading tonight in london where at 8:09 this could take things to a new level. >>jonathan: great concern

i'm jonathan capehart in for willie geist. this is "way too early" the show that's never lost a debate unless you count the ones with my mom. hi, mom. i'm glad you peer up with us this morning watching on msnbc or listening live on sirius xm radio. shoot me an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc.com or you can text the word "awake" followed by 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. the next 30 minutes will be your cram session for this friday, august 12th. a lot going on today including a career worst round of golf for tiger woods. we'll have a special guest helping me in sports because i'm going to need it. plus i will come to your house and cook you dinner. >> there were strange campaign promises in last night's debate. full recap later in the cooler. first let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. >>> with the ames straw poll just a day away, another republican is jumping into the 2012 presidential race. a spokesman for rick perry says the texas governor will officially announce he'

me tonight, jonathan. >> hi, lawrence. >> is it wise for the obama campaign to be out there talkingbout the plans for the negative plans for romney? >> i think it's fine to do that is.s you eir base going with know, but this anonymous source who used the word "kill," you know, should be -- i guess you could say he should be banned from commenting about politics, whoever he is, because you don't use the "k" word ever when it comes to a presidential candidate or president. having said that, look, they have a game plan they are going to try to do to romney what george w. bush did to john kerry in 2004, and that is to discredit him early and often. >> you know, jonathan, i just want to go back to the citation for that political quote. i want to read it again. here's how that quote is attributed in politico. "a prominent democratic strategist aligned with the white house." as i said in my introduction, that narrows it down to about 300 people. >> a thousand people. >> a thousand, there you go. the other stuff is all david axelrod on the record saying things perfectly sensible and respons

creating jobs, jonathan, 62%. the president today says he's looking forward getting to work on this when they come back to work, but they are not coming to work for five weeks. it sounds so hollow if you know he means in september, he means we're going to sit here, we're going to do nothing for the month of august on something that has this kind of urgency in the polls. >> that's right, and very possibly nothing until the election if the record of this republican house is any indication, but there are some other policy remedies, for instance, a proposal to essentially eliminate the payroll tax for a considerable period of time, which would add to the deficit, of course, but the problem right now is not cutting spending. this is why the debate of the last eight weeks has been so preposterous, we need to increase demand and that might include increasing spending in the short-term. if you can put money in people's pockets with another payroll tax holiday, you could spur demand somewhat and there's a series of other r

jonathan we hear from amazing stories as the accused rioters appear.athan: extraordinary details including a 13-year-old they arrested with a hammer strapped to his leg to use as a weapon as he headed to the riots and we heard about an eye doctor who saw his store being looted on tv and he went down to survey the damage and found the try ideaers there and one of them towned to him and asked, do you have any raybans left and a judge has been wondering where are the parents? their kids are showing up in courts and the parents are not there. one set of parents who were involved, the parents of an 18-year-old woman selected to be an ambassador for next year's olympics in london and her parents looked to the tv and saw her throwing rocks at a police car and they called the cops themselves and had her arrested. listen. >> it was a hard decision to make, you know, i hope other people find the courage. >> we are getting a look at the ages of those who have been arrested. the youngest so far to appear in court is 11 years old and the oldest is 48, and the avera

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i want to go to jonathan on just this point.the case then when he talks about corporations he is just talking about the investor class, the executive class, does that exclude people who are vulnerable, poor in need of american society. the fact of a matter is a corporation is a voluntary association of individuals. there is fat cats, i suppose, you know what? it's also the employees, the management, the investors, it's all these individuals who get together around a common cause. in this case, and in terms of a profitable successful corporation, it's a productive cause. these people aren't on the government dole, not taking handouts. producing valuing making money for themselves but yes bettering society at the same time. when the left wants to talk about taxing corporations, they are taxing people. again, i know you want to paint it as the evil, you know, corporate jet flying folks, but it's individuals. it's pension plans. it's employees. that he was who gets hurt by this type of rhetoric. >> juan: mark, you anticipate the dem

right, jonathan hunt? and that's where you are? >> shep, that's exactly where we are.he mandatory evacuation order was in place. they wanted everybody off what you rightly said is a tiny strip of land. just a few hundred yards wide in some places. you can see out here the ocean, shep, already churning ominously. we are feeling a few drops of rain. here is the problem for all this strip of land. take a look at these dunes. they are at the most about 8-foot high in most places. if you get these big waves and then a storm surge of just a few feet on top of that, you only need to be going over 8-foot and you come right back here and then there are all of these properties that line dubai road. what you are looking at right now is the dune deck hotel. couple people on one of the upper floors checking the windows. they are getting everybody out here. it's the same right along this road, shep. all the residents pretty much are going. we spoke to a couple who have not been boarding up. a friend of ours, steven lives out on this road. we were with him this morning. is he not boa

not so much, but you want a lot of other forces in the world. >> jonathan, a question?, dan, of your three ideas which you showed, which i thought were all very interesting. of them can be done without the position going to a congress that has made it clear they don't want to do anything that would remote by give him a victory, even a victory that would be of benefit to the american people? >> you know, the fed and do the other two, yeah, maybe you would have to go to congress for that, but there's a lot of money laying around, they have set aside for things like this. you could use the fed's balance sheet. -- i'm sorry, the federal government's balance sheet, you borrow on our dime and you get a lower rate. >> time for one more question, ben bernanke is making a much anticipated address at jackson hole at the big annual conference on friday of the central bankers and fed watchers. do you expect we'll hear anything new from him on the domestic front? might he even hint the fed is somehow going to play a role in what's going on -- >> i don't know if rob will agree with m

i want to go to jonathan on just this point. it the case then when he talks about corporations he is just talking about the investor class, the executive class, does that exclude people who are vulnerable, poor in need of american society. the fact of a matter is a corporation is a voluntary association of individuals. there is fat cats, i suppose, you know what? it's also the employees, the management, the investors, it's all these individuals who get together around a common cause. in this case, and in terms of a profitable successful corporation, it's a productive cause. these people aren't on the government dole, not taking handouts. producing valuing making money for themselves but yes bettering society at the same time. when the left wants to talk about taxing corporations, they are taxing people. again, i know you want to paint it as the evil, you know, corporate jet flying folks, but it's individuals. it's pension plans. it's employees. that he was who gets hurt by this type of rhetoric. >> juan: mark, you anticipate the

jonathan's piece yet really nailed it. i might add there's a lot of disillusion meant -- the president's job approval ratings in the gallup poll last week was 8%. the think about it is they may be disillusioned, but i think frankly at the end of the day will they vote a year from november? you bet. doesn't that apply to the democrats, too? they're not going to go voting for rick perry. isn't one of the big problems is they are a fractured party? you have the bachmann perry wing and those two don't see eye to eye. >> both parties certainly have their problems right now. i think it's more accuse in the republicans part, of course, president obama doesn't have a primary. usually when an incumbent presidents do lose, it's often proceeded by -- and it seems like he won't have it this time. you talked to senior levels, and they really want more options in this field. statistic donor class especially still really wants chris christie to run. he's said repeatedly he will not do it, but that longing is still there. but if you have

so, the idea that the president was pushed aside by speaker boehner or -- >> but, jonathan, jonathan,y revenues. >> well, looking it is a negotiation one. >> he didn't get a cent. >> he didn't get a cent, and again, it is a knee goschation and compromises were made and more than anyone felt he should have, but as we talked about over the last two weeks, the president was dealing and speaker boehner mind you, was dealing with a small minority within the republican conference that wasn't budging at all, and they were willing to pull the trigger on the american economy. and you know, quite frankly, the president didn't want to have that happen, and i think that he made the right decision. and also -- >> and we have had this talk of triangulation and the president being the only adult in the room seeking compromise, and that has been portrayed as something of an asset, but it is not hope and change, is it? >> well, no, it is not hope and change and remember that hope and change was on a campaign trail. hope and change has run up against governing time and time again in this barack obama's

thank you, jonathan alter, thank you chris cillizza.ext wednesday september 7th, this is what i was referring to, at 8:00 p.m. eastern, the republican candidates debate live from the reagan library in california, and it's moderated by our own brian williams. when we return, let me finish with the political gaffes of michele bachmann. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. relationships are life. if you don't have that thing that fills your heart and your soul, you're missing that part of your life that just fulfills you. ♪ [ male announcer ] for us at humana, relationships matter too. the better we know you, the better we can help you choose the right medicare plan. that's why humana agents sit down with you to figure out your medicare options. and we have nurses you can call anytime, even at 3 a.m. because when you're on the right humana medicare plan and taking good care of yourself, then you can be there for the people who matter most. [ grandma ] my family is my joy, my hope... they are my heart. it's the reason we get out of be

michelle bernard, jonathan alan and fred yang.tural disasters, hurricanes, snowstorms, leadership is always a big issue. i want to highlight one thing, there was a pew poll out this week, presidential leadership, president obama able to get things done. now 44%, that's down 11% from may. >> yeah. >> how concerning is that for the white house? >> it is not insurmountable, but it is a big concern. if you look at the pew numbers in more detail, the only numbers that stayed about the same or didn't decrease significantly were do we like you, do we think you understand people like us, do we think you're a good communicator? the president has to definitely look at these numbers and understand that just because people like him, it doesn't mean they're going to re-elect him. the country is hurting, but then again, you know, the election is a far away off. the numbers are not insurmountable. >> we haven't mentioned the economy at all in this whole hour. how much is he able to get things done with the economy? >> i think a lot of it has to

i disagree a bit with jonathan.esident should call congress back is to show some leadership, take control and leadership of this situation. i would call them back, give a speech to a joint session of congress and lay out an agenda and say here's what we've got to do and make that agenda on jobs. he as to get out of this debt reduction trap, and start putting people back to work. >> i would agree with you, but as long as that joint sell eggs is in september. as showed in that clip with jay carney, he said we shouldn't be reacting to every dip. that was after the market dropped 600 points. today the market is up 400 points. that's a good point. >> but something else that i think bill said. bill said you think the president is in pretty good shape. a lot of people are running around saying he's in trouble, but when you look at the facts, ronald reagan, when he was approaching reelection in his first term, right where president obama is now, look at where unemployment was, and look at where his job approval was. his job

>>jonathan: not at all. the white house said syria would be "better off if assad went," and today the russian president said assad will suffer what he calls "a sad fate," if he doesn't institute reforms but assad simply turning a deaf ear to that and continuing the crackdown on the protesters. one city, for instance, has been sealed off from the rest of the country and electricity to the entire city cut and president assad is sending a message to the world that he is not going anywhere. he is going to fight for his political life. >>trace: aside from that sad fate, what are the options? >>jonathan: sings are -- sanctions considered and yesterday the united states froze the bank accounts of a close assad advisor would has many businesses in the united states. but, some experts believe the administration should go further, perhaps even allowing the c.i.a. to work far more closely with the protests. >> we should get the c.i.a. back in the business of influencing political outcomes abroad and offer help whether

>>jonathan: we talked to a member of the medical "a" team about specifically about that. here is what she said. listen. >> cook the meat. don't try to eat undercooked turkey. curbing it thoroughly. if you need a meat thermometer get the temperature to 165 and the salmonella is gone. wash your hands. clean the surfaces the meat was touching. >>jonathan: bottom line, while this salmonella strain is resistant to some antibiotics it is not difficult for consumes to keep themselves safe in the first place. follow the instructions and you should be safe from contracting this form of salmonella. >>shepard: thank you, jonathan who is chatting away at foxnews.com/shep on our home page and click that year looking guy and you can join in the conversation and maybe we will share views later at foxnews.com/shep. the most extensive computer hacking operation in the world has been targets defense contractors and u.s. government agencies for years. and organizes in 13 other countries, as well, so reports a official from a major security firm who called this "operation shady rat." they sa

we are not nuts we bring the news jonathan is not going to be at danger. jonathan, thank you. lt. colonel john talbott is meteorologist for hurricane hunters. last night he flew through hurricane irene. good evening sir. >> good evening greta. >> greta: since you flew through the hurricane, tell me why and what you learned? >> well, we do this to keep the national hurricane center abreast of what is going on right now in the hurricane and to tell them exactly where that storm is and exactly how far out the winds extend. of course, we know this is a very large storm. we had a very good flight last night. one of the biggest things that we've seen last night and even today, the storm has maintained intensity. it hasn't strengthened that much it also hasn't weakened that much that's the reason we are out there to catch these things when they do change intensity. >> greta: what is it like to fly through a hurricane colonel? >> it is a very interesting flight. the storm is surrounded by rain bands. the earth passes 10,000 feet, we fly through, go through those rain bands and enter the c

. >> jonathan, welcome to wait wait. gary writes, jonathan is doing a fantastic job. he's a natural. the reason i was awake, i had a craving for the choco taco in my freezer. yum. >> that's disgusting. what's the next one. >> gene tweets two cats are making babies outside my window. >> no, that's disgusting. thanks, rob. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> it's an undisputable fact that in congress her record of accomplishment and results is nonexistent. >> you said the era of small government was over. that sounds a lot more like barack obama if you ask me. >> she fought for less government spending. we got a lot more. she led the effort against obama care, we got obama care. she led the effort against t.a.r.p., we got t.a.r.p. she said she's got a tie tan numb spine. it's not her spine we're worried about. it's her record of results. if that's your results, please stop. you're killing sglus i was at the tip of the sphere fighting against the i'm implementation of obama care. nancy pelosi, harry reid and barack obama run congress. i gave them a run for their money. i

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thank you jonathan alter, thank you chris cilizza. don't forget, 8:00 p.m.tern, the republican candidates debate here on msnbc live from the reagan library in california and it's moderated by our own brian williams. >>> when we return, let me finish with the political gaffes of michele bachmann. >>> let me finish tonight with republican presidential candidate michele bachmann and her tendency to commit gaffes on the campaign trail. her public pronouncements made waves again over the weekend, this time it was in florida when she said i don't know how much god has to do to get the attention of the politicians, he said are you going to start listening to me here? listen to the american people, because the american people are roaring right now, they know government is on a morbid obesity diet, and we have to reign in the spending. bachmann later insisted she was joking. look, i'm probably more sympathetic than most when it comes to public/political faux pass, i don't know how dangerous it can be, i made plenty of mistakes. during an interview with ronan tinan, i

jonathan alter and ari melber join me next.ill maher's turn to explain to you why we're all socialists now. that's in the rewrite. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart. >>> i believe we need a balanced approach. >> i believe we need a balanced approach. >> it is possible for us to construct a package that would be balanced. we've got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. i continue to believe that a package that is balanced and actually has serious debt and deficit reduction is the right way to go. we can do it in a balanced way that doesn't hurt anybody badly, that doesn't put the burden just on one group. this balanced approach asks everyone to give a little without requiring anyone to sacrifice too much. >> the president gave up his balanced approach that would include tax revenue in order to get a deal with the republicans in the end. in the spotlight tonight, the language used to

. >> jonathan alter, chuck, thanks to you. andrea. >>> in a minute we'll be checking in with cnbc asia to get a look at how the asian markets are reacting to the u.s. debt fight. we already saw earlier tonight when harry reid said there were sort of the outlines of a deal, the futures on wall street went up about 125 points. obviously, that's something we're watching very closely. >>> we'll also have a lot more on the political battle and the fallout for the american people and now we're just a little more than 15 minutes away. john boehner will be speaking to the republican members of the house. as we head into the break, let's hear a little bit of what nancy pelosi had to say just a short time ago. >> this bill has a long future, nine years, ten years, whatever it turns out to be. has ramifications even beyond that decade. so we'll all have to take a look, and we all may not be able to support it or none of us may be able to support it but we will wait and see and we're open to what comes down because, again, the stakes are

hey, simon. >> good morning, jonathan.europe yesterday towards the end and that's why we came down like we did. but we've just had the second quarter revision on gdp come out, and the economy grew more slowly in the second quarter of the year than we -- than was initially estimated. we thought it was a 1.3 annual pace. in fact it was a pace of just 1%. that's no great surprise. wall street was expecting that but it does high light the fact that we may be going into recession. and economists note that in nine of the past eleven recessions, since world war ii, we've had a 1% growth rate before we slid back down. so all attention, very importantly, are now focused on 10:00 eastern, when ben bernanke, in jackson hole, wyoming, will give his assessment of the economy and lay out the policy prescriptions, what they might do if the economy does worsen. and, of course, we've had this telegraph really over the last few weeks that the market is trying to factor in what it thinks it's going to get. interestingly this morning, john hi

jonathan, why? >> i talked to some top democrats last night.led at the votes perry got here. they're excited because the culture factor, because of the fact that he looks the part of that swaggering texan, and they think that could help divert from, obviously, the economic challenges the president has. if they can make this less of a referendum, more of a choice, make it more about the opponents' views, their persona, they have a better chance to get re-elected. >> let me quickly, chuck -- >> i've got one number for you, 26. 26 consecutive years he's held elected office. that means there's a lot of votes, a lot of everything. >> right. let me go to the week ahead, because it's quite interesting for the politicians on the trail. michele bachmann is going to be in waterloo where she was born. she'll be going to a dinner there tonight, then on to south carolina. governor perry, he's at that same dinner in waterloo tonight, rather interesting. he'll be in iowa here early part of the week. and then back to new hampshire, trying to straddle both ends

let moo go to jonathan. your sense at this point putting it together, picturing gabrielle giffords back from attempted assassination to this moment tonight. >> it is amazing, chris. talking roughly seven months here. this is a situation she was shot through the brain. people didn't know if she would survive. here she is voting, doing her duty as member of house of representatives on the floor. gabrielle giffords stands out among her colleagues and always has for having particular interest in constituent service, being somebody that really enjoyed her job as a legislator in a way that i think you would appreciate as somebody that used to work on capitol hill, so an amazing, touching moment with her, and obviously on a very, very important day for the country in terms of the massive deal between president obama and the congressional leaders. >> how do you score this event in terms of the deal itself, jonathan? >> i'm sorry, which event? the deal or gabby giffords showing up? >> the deal. >> look, it is huge, c

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we'll get political analysis from jonathan alter and richard wolffe. our coverage will continue, but president obama says the -- at least the outlines of an agreement are here and we would expect a vote in both houses tomorrow. >>> president obama just a short >>> president obama just a short time ago saying there's a deal on the table to avoid the first ever default in the history of this country to raise the debt ceiling. we also heard from both mitch mcconnell, harry reid and john boehner has given a power point presentation to the members of his caucus. so tomorrow we have a little bit of a schedule. i'm just handed the senate schedule. they are going to come in tomorrow morning. the republicans are going to meet at 10:00. the democrats are going to meet at 11:00. but the idea on both sides is that there will be a vote. now, the question is, what's going to happen over on the house side? joining me is democratic congressman from missouri eman manual cleaver. he is the chairman of the congressional black caucus. congressman, good evening. >> good ev

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we'll get political analysis from jonathan alter and richard wolffe. our coverage will continue, but president obama says the -- at least the outlines of an agreement are here and we would expect a vote in both houses tomorrow. >>> president obama just a short time ago saying there's a deal on the table to avoid the first ever default in the history of this country to raise the debt ceiling. we also heard from both mitch mcconnell, harry reid and john boehner has given a power point presentation to the members of his caucus. so tomorrow we have a little bit of a schedule. i'm just handed the senate schedule. they are going to come in tomorrow morning. the republicans are going to meet at 10:00. the democrats are going to meet at 11:00. but the idea on both sides is that there will be a vote. now, the question is, what's going to happen over on the house side? joining me is democratic congressman from missouri eman manual cleaver. he is the chairman of the congressional black caucus. congressman, good evening. >> good evening. >> the president painted t

jonathan's picture appears to be frozen. he has a special guest with him. >> reporter: i'm with i had the nassau county chief executive. we seem to be through the worst, how bad was the worst >> pretty bad 120,000 residents without electricity, 20 transmission lines down. downed trees, flooding, roads impassable. dangerous conditions many people should stay in until we get the all-clear. we weathered the storm without reported injuries, that's important. people followed the plan and we got through this, without injuries to the safety of our residents and that's primary concern. >> reporter: one thing we know, just looking out here on broadway, the main thorough fair that runs along the ocean, a lot of hopes -- badly flooded. >> flooding of homes and business significant. we are under an assessment, fema is deploying an assessment team as we spook. it is important we do that task. primary keep the public safe. next task to return us to normalcy that is underway >> reporter: no dollar figures, but it is pretty bad. >> million worth of damage sustained in this

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