actually, so all the votes like i said before were 3-0, and mike deserves a lot of credit, and jonathan adelstein as well, the other democratic commissioner at the time. as you can see from our dialogue here, we disagree philosophically a hot. but, a, we have a terrific personal relationship as with jonathan as well, and we all three believed in the process and making it more open and transparent. i think we were also very focused on the digital tv transition. that was the biggest thing the fcc had ever done, had undertaken, it affected tens of millions of consumers across the country in all 50 states and was absolutely necessary as we tried to auction off pieces of those airwaves for mobiling broadband use. so, but -- so that was, that collaborative atmosphere was something mike and i and jonathan all made a point of emphasizing, of also making sure that the commission staff who were very instrumental in going out across the country to help educate consumers on what they needed to do to adjust the digital tv transition. that was a great moment for them. i think morale improved as a result. but w