to start with, i'm joined by the grio's joy reid, the washington post's jonathan capehart and mother jones magazine's david corn, all three are msnbc political analysts. in addressing what happened to trayvon martin, the president related his own experiences as an african-american man. >> there are very few african-american men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. that includes me. there are very few african-american men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. that happens to me, at least before i was a senator. there are very few african-americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. that happens often. and i don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the african-american community interprets what happened one night in florida. >> jonathan, i heard the president say that he respects the process

jonathan capehart, closing arguments are to come.need to do in these terms, in terms of closing arguments? >> they need to remake their case now that the witnesses have testify, now that the evidence has been brought in, both the defense in this case, the prosecution has to weave together everything that the jury has heard over the last two weeks into a compelling narrative to show that george zimmerman was not acting in self-defense, that he chased trayvon martin, that he gunned him down, that trayvon martin was trying to defend himself basically, what they're trying to do is prove their second-degree murder charge or maybe the manslaughter charge -- we don't know what instructions the jury's going to get -- and it's the defense's job to sew those seeds doubt because, remember, the frprosecution haso prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. the defense has done a good job of sowing seeds of doubt on the prosecution's case and sowing seeds of doubt about what -- well, seeds of doubt of what trayvon martin i may or may not have done

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. >> joining me now, jonathan capehart, "washington post" opinion writer, and msnbc analyst, professoryou wrote in "the new york times" today, the anger felt by so many african-americans speaks to the simplest of truths that race and law cannot be separated. we're tired of hearing that race is a conversation for another day. we're tired of hearing that reasonable doubt is not in every sense of the word "colored." explain that, professor. >> well, when this case first started, so many people were focused owner whether or not this was a "stand your ground" case, or self defense case. those are important questions, no doubt about that. but at the end of the day, the reason it was a self defense case was that george zimmerman argued that he followed trayvon martin perfectly lawfully and then was put in fear of his life. now, if george zimmerman -- if george zimmerman had followed -- if another george zimmerman had followed somebody, had chased them for minute after minute. had pursued them, the person had tried to get away, and then had gotten out of his car and pursued them again, by most

father of trayvon martin, speaking about those phone calls, the 911 calls, and i'm joined now by jonathan capehart of "the washington post" and lisa bloom, who is our msnbc expert. and jonathan actually asked you, lisa, just before mr. trayvon took the stand, whether mr. martin, sorry, took the stand, whether you thought it would be a good idea for the defense to call him. and your reaction was no. >> that's right. and that's still my answer. i agree with the answer they gave before. you know, i don't think that was particularly helpful, to the defense. you know, i think it's kind of overkill at this point. and this is a very, very sympathetic man. i think any of us can understand, if your son has been killed, unexpectedly, at a young age, and you're at the police station and you're answering questions, you're going to be beyond dazed and confused. >> absolutely. lisa, we are going back to the proceedings, so thank you, but please stay with us. >> -- and on february 26th, 2012, what was your occupation? >> i was the chief of police for the city of sanford. >> no longer in that position? >> no, sir

. >> jonathan capehart, there's been a lot made earlier before we saw these witnesses today about what people have called the demonization of trayvon martin making him the aggressor, making him library to be aggressive. does the re-enactment, the recreation of what happened, does it cut against that and does it make it more ambiguous who was the aggressor on that day? >> i think it does. i do think it makes it more ambiguous who was the aggressor here. but these, the interview, the interviews between george zimmerman and chris serino are vital. they are very important. i listened to those, to all the tapes they were playing in court today a year ago. they are a treasure trove of information. serino just admitted to the prosecution that the statement that he made about you know trayvon martin's phone having a video camera on it and there might be stuff on there we don't node about, his bluffing the guy and pushing him and as lisa said, this is the first time we've actually gotten to hear in court george zimmerman speak for himself. and if you notice, through all the things that we've he

i want to go back to jonathan capehart who -- jonathan, you said this can only be accomplished in an on twitter. not on-line. not with raised voices. but i just would like to try and have it. do you think the verdict was just first of all and second of all, what do you feel is misunderstood between those who disagree with this verdict or between you and me? >> look, the verdict is what it is. and going into it like i said, i've been following this story from the very beginning, read all the papers, i know that most of the inns and outs of everything. i watched the entire trial. and listening to the jury instructions and knowing florida law such as it is i wasn't terribly hopeful. i knew second-degree murder there wouldn't be a conviction there. i held out hope there would be a conviction on manslaughter. when not guilty came, i have to tell you, like i said earlier i was shocked but not shocked. i was shocked because an unarmed teenager was killed and the person who killed him wone, not only was arrested but was out for 45 days before being arrested and held accountable. i was shocke

one other thing that i want to know is when jonathan capehart went toe to toe with chris christie, heot lose. capehart definitely got the better of him. >> thanks. >> jonathan is a sharpshooter. he's small but quick with his hands. jonathan, have a column out today about mr. carlos danger, new york city mayoral candidate. danger's latest video, you write this, quit doesn't exist in the big apple dictionary but chutzpah does. weiner's message is the vet definition of the word famously butchered by michele bachmann. so here's a question, john. do we have to suffer this right the way through till september 10th? >>. >> the judging by that video, probably so. i mean, one thing as michele bachmann butchered it by saying chuz pa and weiner has the chuz pa to stay in this race, he is defiant, two sitting on a stack of money and every time he opens his mouth he gets even more free media. people talking about his campaign gives him another opportunity to talk about what he wants to do as mayor even though his congressional record is even less than paper thin be. >> but isn't that a problem for

jonathan capehart, you are familiar with the president's thinking. you've talk to staff. i think you were at white house for the announcement, for his comments. it was unscripted but deeply thought through and he wanted it to be presented that way as a surprise. he didn't want a lot of people analyzing and previewing what he had to say. >> right. right. as you can tell, the way he spoke, this was something that the president has throughout a lot about. clearly this is something he's been thinking about since the verdict. as we know from other reporting, he talked to close staff and friends and family particularly the first lady about the case, about what this means for race relations and what, if anything, he should say. and unlike the speech he gave in 2008 to what basically rescued his president tensiial campaign was very personal from the heart, and from his own head. no teleprompter, no nothing. >> no presidential seal, gene robinson, you had written about this of course the day before, for posting on friday in the "washington post." and he came out with no secret ser

joining me now are michelle cottle and jonathan capehart.nks for coming of the show. >> thanks, rev. >> thanks. >> michelle, is there now an effort to exert maximum force on republicans in congress. >> well, it is an effort to go around them definitely. and i think ever since the election the obama team has made clear they think their man does better when he plays the outside game. you know, i'm sure everybody is familiar with these e-mails that are going out with the organizing for america groups that are telling people for the august action month they need to get out and pressure their congressman and tell them what they want done and to oppose gridlock. and it's this kind of outside strategy, take it to the voters thing that the white house has decided is their best bet. because they feel like every time they've reached out, they got brushed back. so they're tired of playing. >> you know, jon than, john boehner was questioned today on the push on jobs and the economy watch this. >> do you think the president now with this campaign trying

david corn is washington bureau chief of mother jones magazine and jonathan capehart, both msnbc politicalnalyst. jonathan, i want to start with you. it looks like russia is not mother russia when it comes to this guy. they set a condition saying sure you can stay here but you have to stop what you do for a living which is go to war electronically or digitally with the united states. no more leaks from the soil of russia. he has to neuterize himself to agree to stay there. so he has it turn out the lights it survive personally. >> right. when vladimir putin, when russian president putin said that, you know, in order to stay, snowden would have to do this, it was rather surprising. russia isn't exactly -- and putin, they both aren't exactly the united states' best friend. >> where did that love come from? >> i know. and in most cases, they don't rise to the level of frenemy. so here you have poor -- poor. you have edward snowden who is there, leaving china basically from hong kong, which is china, going to moscow, which was supposed to be a transit point before heading off to venezuela, and

joining me now, melissa harris perry on msnbc, and jonathan capehart, editorial writer for "the washington" melissa, this young woman has become almost a touchstone of differing cultural reactions to the case, to the issues involved. i was really struck by her interview last night and the way different people, including that juror who was on cnn, spoke about this young woman. >> yeah. rachel jeantel i think ended up being less an actual human being who as a young woman on the phone -- a teenager really -- on the phone with her dear friend. she becomes the last person to speak to her dear friend. her friend is in fact shot and kill minutes after they br were the phone together. i think if we really think of her as a person, as a young person. we would see her as a person in great traumatic stress and would have a sense of empathy and attachment to her. but i think part of what the reactions to her reveal is how much issues of race and class and respectability and sort of normativity affect us. middle class african-americans who felt that she somehow was misrepresented or poorly representing

"washington post" columnist and msnbc contributing jonathan capehart, and joining me from washington is "new york" magazine columnist jonathan shate whose feature is the latest issue is "anarchists of the house." jonath jonathan, fascinating read. you followed it up with today's post online basically talking about the hellaciousness -- i am of course paraphrasing -- of being john boehner in the current house of representatives. talk to us about your thesis here, that it isn't so much about radical policy with house republicans these days. it is about actually stopping the wheels of governance. >> exactly. it's different means. it's not radical ends that are new. when the house republicans took control of the institution after 2010 they didn't just say that's the end of obama's agenda, we're not passing any new laws. they had this idea that they were the new legitimate government. obama's presidency was over and they were going to push policy in their direction. of course they didn't have the votes to pass bills and override obama's veto so they had to use extreme new tactics to try to

our friend jonathan capehart from "the washington post" was inform the room for the president's remarks start with you. i mentioned this earlier. this column from your colleague at "the washington post" jeanne robinson this morning, the timing of this is interesting in light of what happened this afternoon. the headline on his column was "obama is the wrong person to lead a discussion about race." i mentioned this earlier. one of the lines is, the unfortunate fact is that obama's aim is to promote dialogue about race, speaking his monday is demon st demonstrably counterproductive. just wondering what your take is. >> well, i'm hoping history will prove gene wrong. it was incredibly powerful to be there in the room when the president gave these remarks. his coming into the room was a surprise, but i think what he had to say was even more surprising. the press core always pays attention when the president speaks. this time, no one moved. everyone hung on every word. i'll speak for myself personally, because i've written a lot about the trayvon martin, george zimmerman case. i've written a

in washington, we have jonathan capehart, msnbc political analyst. and opinion writer for the "washington post." also maya wiley, founder and president for the center of social inclusion. i want to start with you, jonathan, because part of what happened today, the president in acknowledging and discussing the pain of african-american communities, it also felt like he was saying and that pain matters, right? and it matters that we feel this. how did you first sort of hear and respond to the president? >> well, i was there in the room, melissa, when the president came in. it was a total surprise to the press corps. and to hear him speak the way he did and acknowledge the pain, frustration, even aggravation of african-americans and particularly african-american men, was extraordinary. extraordinary for a man who a lot of people complain done talk enough about race, doesn't acknowledge his blackness to a lot of people's satisfaction. but i also want to point out one other thing and that is by the president speaking for so long, 17, 16 minutes, one about r

lisa bloom, goldie taylor, jonathan capehart. i am struck, lisa, by the extent to which mark o'mara as i said sad earlier, does seem to be setting up a case for not having to have george zimmerman testify and to try to turn what many are saying is some inconsistent testimony to serino both in the police station and during that walk-through, turn it in the defense's favor. >> look, both sides want it both ways. with their witnesses when he their witnesses are inconsistent, well, people can't remember everything perfectly. we're not robots. we tell the same story over and over, of course, there are going to be some minor differences. when they're going after a witness on the other side, you've got inconsistencies. therefore you're a liar. we should throw out your testimony. you can't be believed. we've seen both the defense and prosecution do that essentially. >> are you surprised there doesn't seem to be at this point anything to impeach anything serino has said that may be damaging to the defense's case? >> it's just all about tr

joining me to talk about it are msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. osing statements. but what struck me is more broadly as a culture we have trouble talking about race. despite the fact we have a black president. some say we are post racial, which we know we are not. why is this is hard subject to talk about? >> there was red since on the part of the prosecution. the judge ruled you couldn't talk about it. the prosecution wanted to say that trayvon martin was racially pro filed. but they said, take out racially and just say pro filed and people will know what you mean. >> i think the reason we can't have this conversation as. >> a nation is because when you talk about race, race is a very intimate conversation. it requires trust. there is so much mistrust, misunderstanding, hard feelings. preconceived notions and only way i can bridge that gap and close that divide is if two people who know each other very well, trust each other and trust each other's motivations that you can have that conversation and unfortunately there are a lot of people on both s

. >>> joining us is david corn and jonathan capehart, a political writer for "the washington post."eak mr. issa apparently apologized publicly, but how do you interpret what he said about mr. cummings being like a boy with his hand caught in the cookie jar? >> not just a boy, a little boy. look, darrell issa should know that putting the words, boy, little boy, in referencing them to a black man, is problematic. but when that black man is the ranking member on your committee, it's beyond problematic. it's myopic. it shows that darrell issa is not only out of touch in terms of what his committee should be doing, but shows he's out of touch just generally, culturally. is darrell issa determined to become the most renewing nan politici politician? or has he already achieved that feat? >> that's a pretty high bar. >> you don't think he's as bad -- >> i'm not saying that, but he city has a way to go. i was wondering if he was going to record a message, in which he would say "step away from the smear." he of course, his whole committee has been really the ra r raison detra. a lot of commit

jonathan capehart, a friend to all of us and frequently seen on msnbc turned something out very quickly all this happened, we have to remember that it was a fight to get charges against george zimmerman. that he said benjamin crump said to him, we can live with a jury verdict. this is what he wrote tonight. tonight we have to live with that verdict. that's our justice system. we don't have to like the jury's decision but we must respect it. and we are seeing the people out in the streets peacefully protesting. respecting that decision. but your final thoughts, lisa bloom, after covering this for so many hours? >> well, he's right. that's a good positive spin to put on it. let's be honest. this is not a good night for civil rights in america. this is not been a good month for civil rights in america. first the voting rights act was gutted. what i say to my children on days like this, our work is not done. we need you. we need more civic engagement. please help us. please join us in solving these problems that still remain. >> i suppose that is one of the messages to the young people. we

i want to bring in to our conversation "washington post" columnist, jonathan capehart. have all three of you here. we didn't anticipate going so deeply into the court coverage this morning, the semantics going back and forth. jonathan, your take as we get up to this final chapter with the jury to be coming in here shortly and closing arguments to begin. >> well, what's interesting about all of this, all of the stuff that we've been watching the last few hours has been out of the jury's presence. some of the more interesting moments of this case have happened with the jury out of the room, once again showing how we, the viewers, folks who are following this case in the media know a whole lot more than the jury will ever know about this case. that's what i find so fascinating among many things. what i find so fascinating about this case and this trial. >> goldie, we have been watching this. this morning we had a report briefly from our craig melvin who's been outside the courthouse giving reports and told us that the police department has put a request in to the judge -- n

joining me now jonathan capehart with the post and david corn of mother jones. speech that was basically up front offensive. he wanted to do more good things to get the economy going. but the beef in this speech was his admission that he can't play mr. i love everybody. that there's going to be a war coming this fall and it's going to be fought by republicans and he might as well get in early. if they want to bring down the government to a halt by saying no debt ceiling increase. they're setting these conditions. they're saying we're going to blow you out of here because when we're done there ain't going to be an obama care or administration. we're going to kill you politically. that's what they're saying. he admitted it today. >> right. and what this speech does is lay down a marker for what he wanted to do. where he wants to go. we've heard bits and pieces of this speech before. we can go to the budget and see what he wants to do. we can go to the american jobs act of 2011 to see what he wants to do. i think the president is trying to remind the people i've be

reid the managing editor of g, rirks o.com and msnbc contributor and kelly goff is with us and jonathan capehart is an msnbc contributor and writer for "the washington post" and jed. we have a big panel to get to today. i want to make sure we do everything with great detail and with great justice for everybody. first i want to start off with joanne. the president was calling for calm in reaction to this. and inserting himself in a diplomatic way whereas before the charges were filed against george zimmerman he made that famous statement if i had a son he would look like trayvon. how i do think the president has done with looking at what this means and the fracture of what it means for how race works in our country? >> yeah. i think it's interesting that the martin incident happened at the time we have an african-american president who can speak to the black people's elementary. if he had a son he would look like trayvon. once the president inserted himself it became doing mattic. that is unfortunately i think it polarized the process and especially in sanford where the jury pool is coming from p

paul henderson is here, patrick murphy is here, jonathan capehart is going to help me out here. >> i'm going to pull a robbery from my friend lisa bloom and that is this, lisa said before she felt there was no theory of the case. and that's how i feel. there's no road map. there's no rhythm here. he's going on all the facts, he's telling a story but, again, you don't have that cinching everything together. that pattern, that rhythm. something to remember. >> patrick, throughout this whole thing, people have been saying the prosecution is not doing a good job. do you agree with that? >> well, i think overall, it's an okay close. but you're right in there has to be recency. the theme of his case is a correct one. that's why i said it's an okay or good one because he's saying there's a teenage boy that was profiled and killed based on false assumptions. which goes to the underlying theme and theory of the case. now to get to the point, let's get to the nitty-gritty. let's make sure to put there and let the jurors know and be confident as a prosecutor saying, listen, why is it that this 15

jonathan capehart, a friend to all of us and frequently seen on msnbc, turned something out very quickly this happened, we have to remember that it was a fight to get charges against george zimmerman. that he said benjamin crump said to him, we can live with a jury verdict. this is what he wrote tonight. tonight we have to live with that verdict. that's our justice system. we don't have to like the jury's decision but we must respect it. and we are seeing the people out in the streets peacefully protesting, respecting that decision. but your final thoughts, lisa bloom, after covering this for so many hours? >> well, he's right. that's a good, positive spin to put on it. let's be honest. this is not a good night for civil rights in america. this has not been a good month for civil rights in america. first the voting rights act was gutted. what i say to my children on days like this, our work is not done. we need you. we need more civic engagement. our generation has not solved all of the problems. please connect, please help us, please join us in solving all these problems that still rema

"the washington post" jonathan capehart is of course an msnbc contributor. gentlemen, thank you. i want to hear all your judgments. i have my own. i want to hear yours. this is my listening time. i'm learning a lot about america the last few days. let's look at this right now. one of the six jurors, as i said, folk spoke out for the first time last night on cnn. she didn't identify herself. but she did speak openly about the case, apparently candidly. who knows. she said she didn't think race played a role in zimmerman's thinking that night. in his thinking. let's listen. >> why do you think george zimmerman found trayvon martin suspicious then? >> because he was cutting through the back. it was raining. he said he was looking in houses as he was walking down the road, kind of just not having a purpose to where he was going. he was stopping and starting. i mean, that's george's rendition of it. >> was that a common belief on the jury that race was not -- that race did not play a role in this? >> i think all of us thought race did not play a role. >> well, she also said she though

with me today for it all, jonathan capehart, steve kornacki, lisa bloom, and patrick murphy, seema ayer, and paul henderson. of course, we have kerry sanders live in florida. let's start down there. kerry, riveting stuff in the defense's final arguments and the prosecution's rebuttal. you were inside the court for it all. how did it play out in the courtroom, kerry? >> reporter: well, it was fascinating to watch it unfold. you know, it's a different view than when you see it on those cameras. perhaps the most interesting thing was to look at the jurors. i could concentrate on them. i found them to be somewhat stone faced. it's not as if you can read where they are. they're looking both at the defense attorney mark o'mara and looking at john guy, who did the rebuttal for the state with the same intensity. taking few notes. in fact, during john guy's rebuttal, i only saw one juror jot down twice for less than 25 seconds twice. so it appeared they had heard what they needed to hear. as you know, what those closing arguments are all about is sort of the summation of all of the evidence. the

let's bring in mans analyst lisa bloom and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart and managing editor ofee,.com. >> lisa, give me your assessments. >> it's fascinating to see a defense attorney say i'm going to take on the burden of proving innocence beyond a reasonable doubt. i don't have to do it but i'm going to do that and we have seen that in another high profile case, the case of michael jackson in 2005 when he was accused of abusing a little boy. he he was acquitted this nthat case. his attorney did the same thing. a lot written in the legal journal about that risky thing that he. my view really not all that risky because no matter what the defense attorney says in court the prosecution has the burden of proving its case beyond a reasonable doubt and the jury will be instructed on that. >> and you don't think they did that yesterday? >> i don't think they did what yesterday? >> that they proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt necessarily? >> i don't think the prosecution put it away. i think the strongest think that mark o'mara has said so this is this is a baro case how many

and msnbc contributor, jonathan capehart, an editorial writer for "the washington post." lisa, over the course of last couple hours we heard some of the audio recordings being played from the conversations zimmerman had with one of the investigators that spoke to him, this doris singleton. he describes in a lot of specific detail what happened there, including referring to trayvon martin as "the suspect." kind of cop talk, as it were. what did we learn from that and what did that sort of specificity teach us? >> well, first of all, overall, he is extraordinarily calm throughout had this entire conversation. consider that he has just shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old boy. and when neighbors called 911 to report it, they were in hysterics over it. yet he remained very, very cool and collected in this conversation. you are right, he goes through it point by point, answering every question the investigators put to him. although the prosecution's going to point out inconsistencies in his story. he says three times, for example, that the police dispatcher, who he had calle

joining me are two political analysts, jonathan capehart with the "washington post" and david corn ofnes. let me tell you, when i saw the speech, up front, offensive. he wanted to do nor infrastructure, education, good things but the beef in the speech was his admission he can't play mr. i love everybody. there's going to be a war and it's coming this fall and it's going to be fought by the republicans. he might, as well get in early. if they can't kill obama care, by defunding it, if they want to bring down the government to a halt by saying nothing debt ceiling increase and no revenues. they're setting conditions basically saying we're going to blow you out of here because when we're done there ain't going to be obama care. we're going to kill i politically. he admitted it today. >> right. what the speech does is lay down a marker for what he wants to do, where he wants 0 go. we've heard bits and pieces of this speech before. we know what the president wants to do. we can go to his budget and see what he wants to do and go to the american jobs act from 2011 to see what the president

. >> jonathan capehart has talked and written about this too, growing up as a young black man, he wasold to act and dress a certain way, because that stereotype -- i mean, i think it's fairly profound, as joy said, if this trial ends up finding george zimmerman not guilty, that is a tacit acknowledgement that a young black man walking down the street in a hoodie late at night is a threat. and that has profound implications for society. and also for black families and black men and the way they purport themselves. >> i was raised with that, if you go into a store, keep your hands out of your pockets, don't run if you don't have to. all those sort of things you need to do. when barack obama talks about no drama as a child, no sudden moves, right, we're all taught those sort of things and we all understand, even if your parents don't tell you -- my parents the told me overtly, but even if you parents don't tell you, you see the way you can activate fear in other people and you have to go back and try to not activate that. you can't always control that. >> that's the burden on trayvon her