divergent narratives within a given institution right there was a really good column the other day jonathan chait in york magazine about how republicans only have themselves to blame for the fact that the trump kind of lapping the field again, because didn't push back at him when he said the election was stolen. it's just it's not a fact, a lie. and no one pushed back at him. and so so you can't possibly have a society, a healthy democracy, when people when there's no basis of common fact. and so so have to not simply the person they also have to fight the of lies. and that includes think using every tool in our arsenal know media appointments and all of that. just you once you lose lose your foundation of facts and you know if you haven't reread 1984 lately it's all about that it's about just it doesn't matter true what we say why it is black white, black it's why you know so yeah so there's this funny thing that's happening that's on a very, very micro level, which is a lot of what this book is about. it feels like almost a catalog of macroeconomy choices that people are making throughout the a

jonathan chait points out that the coalition that defeated donald trump 2020 does seem to have grumblingsd the left wing of the parties are so upset with joe biden that some of them are ambivalent about a trump win. juanita, what is the rationale here? joe biden didn't do enough for me so i am okay with trump, who wants none of what i do? >> i think the rationale is that they are genuinely fatigued by the strain that people have been under for years now, and i think that came across one elmo tweets out, check house everybody doing in and everybody is like bad. that's the tail. that's the tone of this electorate right now. i think it's going to be a massive uphill battle for democrats because yes, democrats have to do a better job of voicing and communicating in educating voters on what they have achieved, as tim enumerated earlier. but they also has to mobilize, and that's where the big concern comes in. i was in conversation with dnc chair jaime harrison for one a day which is airing tomorrow, where he died about the call to action still being clear. but again, if voters are genuinely fa