joining me now, jonathan cohn of the "new republic."uthor of "sick: the untold story of america's health care crisis and the people who pay the price." that's the obamacare fight for me, in a nutshell, i do not believe it. >> it's really quite remarkable. i was, about two hours ago we had the local news on. i live in michigan. and there was the new ad. and it's been everywhere. and, you know, it is impervious to facts, it seems. everybody i think feels for this woman. she's got cancer. everybody wishes her the best. but, you know, these claims, you know, people, opponents of the health care law, they make these claims. they get debunked and they keep coming out. i think responsibility for that frankly does belong with americans for prosperity with the koch brothers. not just for spreading these false claims but, you know, what are they telling these people like julie boonstra when they come to them? are they bothering to explain to them, hey, guess what, you have good insurance options out there. are they helping these people or using t

and jonathan cohn.ll right, avick, you've been someone very critical of the aca from the beginning. do you feel vindicated? >> yeah, i mean, you know, in fairness, chris, a lot of liberals were also worried about the so-called death spiral. and they were always wrong, both sides, both the conservatives who were cheering it on, liberals who were scared about it because the subsidies do provide a cushion that prevent a true death spiral from occurring. and at the end of the day, it's important to remember that we can't use the signup figure that cms is talking about as actual enrollments because if you aren't -- you aren't actually aren't -- you aren't actually enrolled with actual health coverage when you go to the doctor or hospital unless you actually paid the premium. that's number one. number two, depends on whether you've been previously insured or previously uninsured. and a lot of the people, according to the surveys we've seen who've signed up for obamacare on the exchanges were previously insure

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joining me is jonathan cohn who has examined this law as well as anybody in the country. jonathan, good morning to you, sir. >> thanks for having me on the show. >> all right. let's talk first about the enrollment issue. we've got about two and a half weeks left. they seem like they have a lot of work -- a lot of work cut out for them, particularly on the makeup of the enrollees. are they going to make it? >> well, you know, there's a lot of talk about the makeup of the enrollers. and as you said, it's important. if you want an insurance program to work, you need young and healthy people to paying into the pool, so there's enough money for the people who are older and sicker when they go to the hospital to pay their claims. where i think the perceptions are wrong is you hear a lot about this 40% figure. we need 40% of young people to sign up for the system to work. that's not quite right. in an ideal world, that's how it would work. the question really is what did the insurance companies expect? you know, they priced their insurance based on expectations of how many young

avik roy and jonathan cohn. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" begins now. >>> good evening, chris. thanks, man. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have breaking news on the story of malaysian airlines flight 370. although there's been a lot of heated speculation about the fate of that plane and what might have happened to it, there has been very little news since the plane was lost, in the technical sense of the word news, meaning new information about what actually happened. tonight on "nightly news" nbc's brian williams and tom costello reported new information which may not tell where the plane eventually ended up, but it does give us more information than we had before, potentially crucial information about what happened in the cockpit, the sequence of events in the cockpit before the plane vanished. this is new information tonight just reported by nbc news. watch. >> we get the very latest on the investigation including new details tonight on the crucial turn in the flight from nbc's tom costello in

avik roy and jonathan cohn. that is "all in" for this evening. show" begins now. >> good evening, crisp. thanks, man. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have breaking news on the story of malaysian airlines flight 370. although there's been a lot of heated speculation about the fate of that plane and what might have happened to it, there has been very little news since the plane was lost, in the technical sense of the word news, meaning new information about what actually happened. tonight on "nightly news" nbc's brian williams and tom costello reported new information which may not tell where the plane eventually ended up, but it does give us more information than we had before, potentially crucial information about what happened in the cockpit, the sequence of events in the cockpit before the plane vanished. this is new information tonight just reported by nbc news. watch.