razz is the national leadership conference, rabbi cooper is an associate dean is he simon wiesenthal center, and father jonathangreat panel. i could start it out this way. a muslim scholar, evangelical pastor, and catholic piece enter a jar. but i won't. it would be the start of a great joke. no laughing matter, a serious subject. father john, i want to start with you. ireland, a predominantly catholic country, what is this vote saying about the current status of the catholic church? >> we should be clear that the leadership of the cache stood up against the repeal of this amendment, so it wasn't that the catholic church has said no, this is the direction we want to go in. but they did not have the authority or the persuasiveness sufficient in order to say "no" to this repeal of this amendment amendment. and so it says that, unfortunately, society has moved in this direction so strongly of pro-abortion, you call it what you want, you could say no, it's just, you know, we're just allowing free choice, but the united states of america alone since we've had upwards of 40 million abortions. 40 million? that is a hu