joining me now is a journalist a new york times bestselling author jonathan eig. ut this tuesday. i'm gonna call you jonathan since we are both johnson's. mr., thank you so much for coming to the saturday show. >> what made you to when you talk to me dr. king your subject. >> first of all, and working on my ali book, i was meeting people who knew dr. king, and it kind of blew my mind. out of curiosity, i began asking people like, did gregory and harry belafonte and angry young and jesse jackson, what was he like, what was it like to be around martin luther king jr. day. that's when it occurred to me, that we really soften his image over the last 25, 30 years, especially since the national holiday was created. we've soften dr. king to the point that you wouldn't recognize his real radical nature. you wouldn't realize, recognize just how create courageous he, wasn't just how complicated he was. he suffered, he went through moments of sadness. he struggled with wondering if used doing the right thing. i wanted to write a book that would make you feel like you knew him