here to talk about the implications of this court case is jonathan hobbs, the founder of saving.com. athan, for many ninvolved in the cryptocurrency, this was the nail in the coffin. the poster child, the head of the celebrated exchange in crypto, is now potentially facing up to years of jail time and alleged counts of fraud and multiple other allegations and including money laundering is not a positive sign for the industry and scared many people away. critics are saying this is ultimately what happens when you venture into an industry that is very low regulated. it does open up the space for fraudsters to exist. what is your interpretation of the impact of the broader crypto space? >> thanks for having me on the show. i think it will slow things down. you know. it is not a good look when this type of thing happens. any emerging technology and cryptocurrency, you will have bad actors when the regulation has not caught up. it will slow thing dos down. last year, we say a drop in the price of bitcoin after the ftx collapse. that brought bitcoin below $20,000. since then, it has rallied