melissa: okay, jonathan hoenig? >> we don't know when a dip is the dip and not, just continuation of a trend. melissa, the downtrend has been in place for twitter quite some time. i fear even as news becomes better in terms of earnings, valuation contracts. keep in mind, that is what a stock is. you're buying valuation of a company. even as earnings if you will start to get better, clarity on fairly expensive stock starts to get better. valuation at which it trades continues to contract. melissa: jason, there is a lot of question about those 3 to million users, how engaged they are. jo, were you responding to that, how engaged they are, what they're doing, how much time they're spending on there, what else doing? it is not just a number. we need more color. >> we're going through the earns report and it is light. analysts were looking for 323 million. growth of course, hasn't been a full quarter with jack dorsey as the permanent ceo. we're seeing a bit of a disappointment there. maybe that is why the stock is down b

back with us to weigh in jonathan hoenig and rich fowler. , what does it tell you about those rules and regulations, the green rules? >> well, all they have done, david, make it more expensive to use the earth, to use energy. the truth is, that the smokestacks should be welcomed. smokestacks are a sign of progress, they're a sign of wealth creation. you don't want any smokestackses, move to the middle of africa. no pollution and no wealth and quality of life is terrible. yeah, california might have some polluted cities but they also got six of 10 wealthiest cities with zip codes. a lot of people live there. david: you can't say their green policies are helping to clean up the state if seven of 10 most polluted cities in the country in california. >> number one, i think jonathan is off base here. number two, the reason why they're creating all new laws putting them in place because they're trying to make sure the environment, the air that we breathe and water we drink is actually cleaner. far too long there is not any regulation. because of th

david: bark with us jonathan hoenig and kimberly foss.imberly i've been looking at 10% gain after-hours. it was slim beat on revenue side. do you think these gains after hours will hold tomorrow? >> well, tomorrow will show but i think it is positive because last year they were down, they were at about 46 cents a share. now they're at 43, which is booed, better than 40 cents that was expected. big thing here, david, this is a stand-alone company now without paypal. david: right. >> investors are looking to see if they can continue with that growth even without that big engine because they were a great, dynamic duo together. let's see if they can continue with that. looks to me that investors are positive for -- david: jonathan, explain to me, revenues have been cut in half, literally more than half as much money in revenues when they had paypal. how can a company whose revenues fallen more than half continue to get good numbers on the stock price? >> well, david, i think the a lot of that expectation was built in prior to the paypal spin-

jonathan hoenig, michelle fields and jessica. senator rand paul will join us on set. welcome, everybody. you heard democrats signing off on the nearly $5 million spent investigating benghazi but you can't put a price on justice for those killed in the attack. since when are democrats so worried about spending anyway? >> it's nice to see democrats have become fiscal conservatives now. but they are wrong on this issue. the amount of money we have spent on the investigation, taxpayers spent on two golfing trips and a fund-raising trip obama took this year. i would argue that we have got a lot more in terms of knowledge and bang for our buck when it came to the investigation than we did for the golf outings. let's be honest. if it wasn't for this investigation we would have never learned that hillary clinton was using a private e-mail server. i think that, in and of itself, is worth it. >> four or five million dollars of the federal budget is $4 trillion. they talk about rounding errors. then there is a rounding error and a rounding error. you can do it four or five times

jonathan hoenig, michelle fields and jessica. senator rand paul will join us

jonathan hoenig is with me now. great to have you with us. >> thank you.re: so what do you make of these infrastructure problems? do we just catch china on a bad week? or is this representative of what's going on? >> no, deirdre, this is atlas shrugged, society grinding to a halt. unfree society and not free market. that's what we're seeing in china. the infrastructure that's crumbling but it's also been the stock market and the economy, and more than anything else china is an interventionist. this is not a free economy or free market, one in which the chinese government including infrastructure plays an integral role, that's why it's cracking up and so many investors heading for the exits. deirdre: speaking of investors, heading for the exit. in ten years is that a smart decision because the people bullish on china say there's growing pains but a billion people who live there. so even if you launch a semi successful business, you'll make some money. >> i mean china languished for decades, only because they started to be more capitalist in the 1980s and 90

our crew, wayne rogers, jonathan hoenig, michelle fields an jessica talbot. curt schilling was

our crew, wayne rogers, jonathan hoenig, michelle fields an jessica talbot. curt schilling was suspended by espn for comparing muslim extremists to nazis. he got time off. i guess comparing tea party lawmakers to isis is oak with espn . >> there is a bit of a double standard. we are talking about a conservative group trying to save american taxpayers and he's calling them isis, a group of people who behead and rape innocent people. it seems sas though there is not a slap on the wrist. this isn't the first time he's been in trouble. he was suspended for making sexist comments about a colleague. it seems espn doesn't care. >> they look the other way on certain things. let me point it out. this guy, very good sports commentator. love him. love his work in the sports world. he should stick to sports. he plays politics, doesn't work out that well. he's also a golf partner of one president barack obama. >> that may explain his shying away from the rules. the fact of the matter is guys like that who are going to express themselves, it doesn't matter. why would anybo

emily tish sussman, center for american progress action fund and jonathan hoenig, who is from capitalistge fund and fox news contributor. jonathan, i love you're on the panel. didn't know there was a guy joining us. >> good to be here. melissa: the burden is on you, my friend. let me start with sabrina first, though. substantially similar work. they say an employer a man or i would think a women's pay is higher based on factors other than gender. that seems pretty silly still, wait a second, they had a different education and they have been here longe how much teeth is in this anyway. >> right. i mean this is why this is gift to trial lawyers because this is so vague, it is going to open up all sorts of potential for lawsuits. going to make women more costly to employ. make employers less likely to hire women. make the work place less dynamic. this is premised on faulty idea that women are only paid 77 cents for dollar man is paid. this perpetuates idea that society and work place are hostile towards women. all in all it will have negative economic consequences. >> emily, i bet you disag

jonathan hoenig and james mack kill van any on that. -- mcivaney. >> stocks like amazon.com are at all-timelued at $70 billion. america is the still the most individualistic and entrepreneurial nation in the whole world. there is opportunity. vulnerable not given the economy but given intervention in the economy. yesterday another no move from federal rye serve. this is almost a decade of intervention, dramatic intervention in matter of the government. not a question of what you know hits the fan or if you know what hits the fan and that is vulnerability that should scare all investors right now. neil: dave, if that were the case, some of the retailers have funny way beefing up holiday hiring. amazon at all-time high. high expectations for holiday season. do you agree with that? >> i think they will be disappointed, if you look at september retail traffic, it was down 2%. agree with jonathan, when you look at big picture, have setup not unlike we had in 2007 and eight. stock prices were moving higher. your global data was weakening and i think if we get to the end of the year see a rate hik