i want to go to jonathan martin. of course, he's also a national political correspondent for "the new york times." jonathan, these tapes, as you are releasing more and more of this audio, they tell the true story. this is what was actually said. this first public hearing is going to be tomorrow. the recordings that you uncovered have been very important in the committee's work. how will they come into play? >> i think what we have in this book, "this will not pass," is a portrait of a republican party that is deeply alarmed in the days leading up to january 6th about what could happen in the capitol on january 6th. but in terms of the threat itself to the health and safety of members, as you heard there at the top of the hour, but also the political implications as well, and namely, you know, what do we tell our voters back home about whether or not to certify the results of the election? obviously, president trump put huge pressure on will youmakers to block certification of the election. that is what prompted that

it's all from "new york times" reporter alex burns and jonathan martin.ngress woman debbie talking about trump supporters on january 5th. >> i'm actually very concerned about this because we have who knows how many hundreds of thousands of people coming here. we have antifa. we also have quite honestly trump supporters who actually believe that we are going to overturn the election and when that doesn't happen, most likely won't happen, they're going to go nuts. >> we're going to have more new audio in a moment but this is the eve of the january 6th select committee's first public hearing. cnn pamela brown has the latest on what we can expect. >> reporter: after a nearly year-long investigation, the january 6th committee is preparing to share their findings with the american people. and they're zeroing in on one man, former president trump. >> i think that donald trump and the white house were at the center of these events, that's the only way really of making sense of them all. >> reporter: from the beginning, the investigation focussed on the unpreceden

jonathan martin, thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it, my friend. >> thank you, john.y" continues right now. >>> good morning to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is tuesday, june 28th. i'm john berman with brianna keilar. we have morning intrigue surrounding the january 6th committee hearing today. a surprise hearing, not on the sch schedule. one surprise witness has been central to their investigation, that witness is cassid

we're thrilled to be joined today by two national political correspondents for the new york times jonathan martin and alex burns whose new book. this will not pass trump biden and the battle for america's future covers how the stability of american politics has been racked by two years of perpetual crisis before joining the times mr. martin was a senior political writer for politico and a writer for the hotline in the national review. he also coauthored a best-selling book on the

. >> and joining me now with the reporting is jonathan martin, audi cornish, melanie.mp is no stranger to persisting with lies but on this issue he is emboldened. >> yeah. instead of walking away from the actions of january 6 he is sort of embracing what happened that day even further and he is trying to create an alternative history to what happened that day and contradicting the advice of every consultant that talked to him. i think he's got to re-establish what happened that day to suit his purposes for the future and does create challenges within the party. it is mostly focused on joe biden and the here and now of inflation and the challenges and the economy and the future and donald trump is mostly fixated on yesterday and especially the election of 2020. some point the two things will come into tension. trump's focus on yesterday. >> you talk about party leadership? i think there's an argument to be made that downstream a lot of republican voters are also concerned about trump's election lie. >> yeah. i think you will find concerns about the election of 2020. bri

this is, to tell everyone, alex burns, jonathan martin. their new book "this will not pass." watch this. >> i got a phone call to the president telling him what was going on and asking him to tell these people to stop, to make a video and go out. i was very intense and very loud about it. he did put a tweet out and later he did put a video out. i told him i didn't like the video he put out later, but the second day, i wish that video was first. >> this shows mccarthy believed trump had the pourer to stop the attack and did nothing for 187 minutes. how is this critical time period, how will this play into the committee's case, do you think? >> this is the most important time period in the case, the 187 minutes from 1:10 p.m. when the capitol was breached until 4:17 p.m. when that tape went out. this recording by mccarthy, by the way, kudos to jonathan and alex for finding this. this is part of a historical record. we won't hear from mccarthy. he was subpoenaed and blew it off. this is more telling than anything he says now because this is what he said then. during the three pl

jonathan martin, our friend who wrote "this shall not pass" makes it clear in his book this is somethingt is a continuing part of american government, american politics, the big lie continues, the fealty to trump continues, and the encouragement to the white supremacists and terrorists to be involved continues. >> tucker: white supremacists and the terrorists. terms they never define. the most powerful words in the english language, by the way, were they used to suppress the vote and terrify you. but steve cohen is telling you it is the white supremacists you have to worry about, and by that, he means anyone who disagrees with him in any way. what you don't have to worry about is blm, the democratic militia who torched court houses are shot people in the streets or people who show up at the horse know marcos is of supreme court justices with guns, none of that is a threat to democracy because all of that id helps the democratic party. very few people say any of this out loud. one of the very few who has been brave enough to do that is, of all things, an nfl defensive chlorinator called j

jonathan martin and alex burns who are are authors of "this will not pass." they join me now. ing you two on so let's get to it. good evening. jonathan, cipollone may agree to this limited interview when so many others in trump's inner circle have stone wall. what is the possibility he may potentially do this even if it's limited? >> it gets in the room if you will of trump's white house in the days leading up to january 6th itself, and that could spell trouble for the former president if more of his advisers, more people who were with him in those crucial days in american history are speaking and they're speaking under oath, which is important to note. so i think this could be potentially valuable. we have not heard cipollone on videotape to date. and i think if he does participate he's going to be able to corroborate or not. >> we know cipollone was involved in these critical moments. what do you think is the most important thing he could tell the committee. >> look, i think as jonathan just alluded to if pat cipollone were to testify and corroborate the elements of cassidy h

it was just released by reporters alex burns and jonathan martin in connection with their new pook "thisl not pass." house minority leader kevin mccarthy talking to members on january 11th, just days after the attack on the capitol, essentially agreeing with everything the committee he now opposes says it stands for. >> we cannot just sweep this under the rug. we need to know why it happened, who did it, and people need to be held accountable for it. and i'm excited to make sure that happens. >> so, just days after he said that, he went to mar-a-lago, made nice with the former president, and is now leading the opposition to everything pretty much he said he was for back on january 11th. also in these new tapes, audio of a republican congressman from indiana on january 5th telling colleagues he doesn't like the fact that he's about to vote to overturn election results, but is doing it anyway, because his constituents are demanding it. >> the reality is, is this is a political vote for many of us. i'm going to vote my district. my district wants me to object to the states that get bicamera

jonathan martin, thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it, my friend. >> thank you, john. see you. >>> "new day" continues right now. >>> good morning to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is tuesday, june 28th. i'm john berman with brianna keilar. we have morning intrigue surrounding the january 6th committee hearing today. a surprise hearing, not on the sch schedule. one surprise witness has been central to their investigation, that witness is cassidy hutchinson, a former top aide to trump chief of staff mark meadows. she's been in some of the most dramatic videotaped testimony. she talked about conversations around illegality of the fake electors scheme, she reportedly confirmed accounts that trump reacted approvingly to the chance of hang mike pence. >> and we're also learning federal agencies john eastman's cell phone last week. eastman is the architect of the scheme to install fake electors in order to overturn the election. >> joining us now, cnn anchor chris wallace, host of "who's talking to chris wallace," chris, great to see you this m

again, we are waiting for the attorney general of the united states usa today jessica chambers, jonathan martin of the "new york times" and cnn elliot williams. we have had too many mass shootings to count in the united states this year. buffalo and uvalde are right with us in terms of the past couple of weeks. so the job of the united states congress is to represent the american people. today just listen to more of this emotional testimony from those most acted in uvalde and in buffalo. >> i couldn't because i lost my baby girl. she's not the same little girl that i used to play with and hang around with and do everything because she was daddy's little girl. >> to the lawmakers who feel we do not need stricter gun laws, let me paint a picture for you, my son xavier has a hole in the right side of his neck, two on his back and another on his left leg, carved by afternoon exploding bullet from an ar-15. >> what i did find was something so no prayer would ever relieve. two children whose bodies had been pulverized by bullet itself, decapitated, whose flesh ripped apart, that the only clue of thei

as reported in a new book by "the new york times" jonathan martin and alex burns.und. >> we cannot just sweep this under the rug. we need to know why it happened, who did it and people need to be held accountable for it. i'm committed to make sure that happens. >> mccarthy now standing united with donald trump in his request for speakership. that was a photo taken after those words. joining me two people who were there. a former cia officer and an arizona congressman. congressman, what do you think happened to kevin mccarthy between january 6 and now? >> he lost his courage. he cared more about politics and being able to hold potential power of becoming speaker and gaining seats. he realizes that the republican party cannot really exist without donald trump and donald trump's base. he struck a deal with literally the devil in order to continue for him to have any chance of being speaker and potentially bring donald trump back. he chose his personal political career versus saving democracy. the lowest thing you could do as a politician. >> congresswoman, do you thin

all of this coming out in newly released audio from alex burns and jonathan martin for his book "thisw is cnn political analyst and "new york times" senior political correspondent maggie haberman. to hear kevin mccarthy say what he wants is full kentuckying of what happened, though he opposes this committee that's holding these hearings tonight. >> opposes this committee and really just a huge kudos to my colleagues for getting these tapes. we know though that mccarthy was saying things to his caucus that he didn't live up to at all, that within two weeks of donald trump leaving office he went down to mar-a-lago to make peace with him. why? because kevin mccarthy wants to be speaker and this was seen adds the fastest way. donald trump was not getting off the scene. it was clear that the reaction in congress to what happened on january 6 was just not commensurate with the republican base and so kevin mccarthy moved on quickly and he hindered the work of this committee. he has shown very little interest in finding out exactly what happened and who is accountable and who should be held a

jonathan martin, our friend who wrote this shall not pass makes it clear in his book this is something that is a continuing part of american government and american politics, the big lie continues, the fealty to trump continues and the encouragement to the white supremists and the terrorists to be involved continues. i have no doubt on january 6th, i felt my life was in danger, i was in the gallery, and when i was there, i hollered down to the floor and said call trump, and ask him to call off his revolutionary guard. it was clear to me what had occurred that day, and it is still going on, and it continues because a man is intent to get power and the republicans helped him and the republicans continue to help him. >> and you, by the way, were not the only one who tried to get the president to call them off. we know that included right up to the republican leadership, kevin mccarthy. january 6th hearings, they're coming up. the committee says it will be presenting not just evidence we're familiar with, but new evidence. they say potentially damning for some senior officials right up to

. >> joining me now is "new york times" national political correspondent jonathan martin, the co-authorrump/bidel and the battle for america's future" also with us "washington post" journalist heidiieidi prison ball la. >> those days after january 6th kevin mccarthy was in a state of agitation for two reasons, one he peered more political violence in this country potentially at the capitol but he also had a crisis of politics on his hand. he was desperately trying to grapple with how to contain the fallout that was going to impact his own party. as we know from the previous tapes we have released on this book, he was thinking about calling for trump to resign, he was thinking about the 25th amendment, obviously grappling with the impact of impeachment and he eventually comes to this point where he thinks a bipartisan commission to investigate january 6th could be something that could unite, yes, both parties and even all the factions of his on party. of course, that is what ultimately did transpire, the congress voted on a bipartisan commission but kevin mccarthy has since moved away fr

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as we know for jonathan martin and alex prince's book.t that corporate side of the republican party wants to do is to make this go away. in the auto box doesn't cover. they put it over on fox business, but nobody watches. and that's just not going to work this was a crime that was far orders of worse than watergate. the vigils from this hearing aren't going to shock the nation. and, i just think that the side of the gop that wants to pretend it doesn't exist, isn't going to. the maga side that wants to defend trump's going to take over the party. it has taken over the party. >> james, take us to the committee and what they do. next year a messaging meant. these are hugely important hearings. but the committee does not have the power to punish anyone or to change any laws. messaging is the name of the game out of this thing. what do they need to get across the country? >> i think they need to tell the story. and, i think that all the politics is a story. every campaign is a story. all right! and i have to tell you, i've been impressed. i t

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we're thrilled to be joined today by two national political correspondents for the new york times jonathan martin and alex burns whose new book. this will not pass trump biden and the battle for america's future covers how the stability of american politics has been racked by two years of perpetual crisis before joining the times mr. martin was a senior political writer for politico and a writer for the hotline in the national review. he also coauthored a best-selling book on the 2012 election and frequently appears as a political analyst on television and radio. mr. burns before beginning his work at the times covering the 2016 election was a reporter and editor at politico where he covered the 2012 election and previously was the editor of the harvard political review. the conversation today will be moderated by david axelrod former senior advisor to president barack obama, and now director of the institute of politics here at uchicago now, i'll turn over to our speakers. thanks. thank you. thank you. harvard that's in the east right? it's just near boston. good to see you guys. thanks. i want

we're thrilled to be joined by jonathan martin and alex burns, whose new book this will not pass, trump, biden, and the battle for america's future covers how the stability of american politics has been racked by two years of crisis. before joining the times, mr. martin was a senior political writer for the politico and writer for hotline and national review. also coauthored a book on an election. frequently appears as an analyst on tv and radio. mr. burns before beginning his work at the time was a reporter and editor at politico where he covered the 2012 election and was the editor of the harvard political review. the conversation today will be moderated by david axelrod, former senior advisor to president obama and now director of the institute of politics here. i will turn it over to our speakers. >> thank you. [applause] >> harvard, that's in the east; right? [laughter] >> just near boston. [laughter] >> good to see you guys. i want to -- as i read this book, i read a lot about the book before we saw the book because you guys were very skillful at disseminating some nuggets there t

of criminal conduct and we also know that mccarthy was aware of it and it's on the tapes from jonathan martinerry has pushed back against the testimony regarding an effort to find a pardon and in your interview earlier with chairman thompson he seemed almost to allude to that a little bit. he said that anyone who thinks that testimony and evidence presented during these hearings is incorrect, there's an open-door policy. >> open mike. >> go under oath, exactly and tell their side of the story. he basically said, hey, scott perry and everybody else, you're all welcome to stop by if you're worried about the facts as they're being presented. that's the test for perry, does he actually go under oath? he now has an opportunity to do so, and while i won't hold my breath necessarily, clearly the chairman was telegraphing that that's an option that was available to him. additionally, perry is interesting for all of the reasons that you just laid out, but what we also reported is that cassidy hutchinson testified that she saw mark meadows burn papers in his white house office after having a meeting th

this next recording comes courtesy of jonathan martin and alex burns, authors of this will not pass,mp, biden, and the battle for america's future. this recording, from those authors, is congresswoman debbie lesko of arizona. this is the day before the attack. listen. >> i'm actually very concerned about this, because we have who knows how many hundreds of thousands of people coming here. we have antifa, we also have, quite honestly, trump supporters who actually believe that we are going to overturn the election. and when that doesn't happen -- most likely, will not happen -- they are going to go nuts. >> congresswoman debbie lesko, telling her republican colleagues, the day before january 6th, that she was pretty sure trump supporters were going to go nuts, because they were expecting republicans to overturn the election. and if that didn't happen, they were going to need some security. they did go nuts. republican members of congress apparently knew they would and they used to be concerned about holding people accountable for it and getting to the bottom of how it came to pass. jo

martin, charles schwab, and jim bianco . i was in a on the u.s. 10 year, yes or no. collin: yes. jim: that would have bent yesterday, so i will go with no. meghan: no. jonathanh-yield spreads, 500 basis points at the close yesterday, what comes first, 600 or 400? jim: 600. collin: 600. meghan: 600. jonathan: fed funds, by year end, 1, 2, 3, 4? meghan: three. collin: three. jim: three. jonathan: thank you very much. from new york, that does it for us. this was bloomberg real yield. this is bloomberg tv. ♪ as a business owner, your bottom line is always top of mind. so start saving by switching to the mobile service designed for small business: comcast business mobile. flexible data plans mean you can get unlimited data or pay by the gig. all on the most reliable 5g network. with no line activation fees or term contracts... saving you up to $500 a year. and it's only available to comcast business internet customers. so boost your bottom line by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities.™ so many people are overweight now, and asking themselves, "why can't i lose weight?" for most, the reason is insulin resistance, and they don't even know they

the kingsville asset management cio and fox news contributor scott martin and capitalist hedge fund manager a fox news contributor jonathanstors positive about anything these days? >> no, that's a good thing. the data and the attitude, the consumer confidence numbers, business confidence numbers so bad that they are good, it is so dark that dawn is coming. how long does that take it's anybody's guest, even the biden administration and a lot of economic council members they say no recession now maybe not ever at least not during our time in office or other experts say they have 2023 problem or 2024 problem, the recession is here right now negative gdp growth easy for me to see in q1 we are going to have flat or negative growth in q2, the sooner the recession comes the softer the more shallow and the easier we will come out of it and that we grow again. this recession unlike previous ones that you and i have gone through, not any relationship but economic things they have been man driven, the past recessions. this is supply driven which is a good thing because demand is there we have to get supply and then the economy will

jonathan: what do you think they do in response? do they let go of a cap on a jgb? tom: i will defer to the late and fabulous martintein, who was dismayed at the cultural slow-motion exercise when they cleared the banking system. why would this be any different? they have to clear out the zombies, they have to be efficient. i'm going to say this until i am blue in the face. this is not your father's yen a story. they have a trade deficit. they are getting crushed by import dynamics. jonathan: as lisa has said, i don't think we can even call some of the same market. dollar-yen right now, 1.93. jonathan: she is chief economist at oecd, laurence boone joins us now on a trip around the world. i'm going to be selfish and go to the growth recession you called for in the united states, where you have an ugly statistic, then the next year it gets uglier for the united states. take that out to a global economy and the benchmark you and i studied in school of the percent global growth as being lousy. is our global economy heading or in a growth recession? laurence: hi, tom, and thanks for inviting me. the global economy is p

martin that. i'm thinking wow, i really am talking to history here. >> so we have "the washington post" jonathan kapartsmays is one of the most powerful things i've seen. it is a wall filled with the mugshots of the people arrested with their peopnumbers.le like the one you just showed of martin luther king. the thing that is so powerful about it is those were faces of not famous people, not historic figures with the exception of martin luther king. but they also looked like a lotd of my relatives. they looked like everyday people who were out there protesting for their own rights. i learned that they were also using it as a badge of courage. are you going to get arrested today? i'm goingrres tomorrow. in listening to you talk about the transcript from the trial, i thought of that wall. i'm just wondering if there was a particular vignette in any of the transcripts that blew you away that really fits with you. >> first of all, the reason i was smiling, they were celebrating being arrested.in in fact, some of the folks who weren't arrested were questioning well, am i not a big enough deal to have been a