let's bring in jonathan miller, and he's the co-founder of no labels that helps to encourage problem solving over idea logical gridlock. thank you for being here this morning. the latest new york time/cbs news poll shows president obama's approval rating has sunk to 43%. will this standoff hurt the president in mid-term elections. >> i don't know whether it will hurt him specifically, because he's not on the ballot. it will certainly hurt anyone on the ballot, an incumbent in washington. what's going on here is not just simply disappointing but reprehensible. and i think the american people recognize this. unless this is resolved without a shoutdown or more importantly but without impinging on the good credit of the united states, i think that the midterm elections could be a real throw the bums out type of deal where there would be a dramatic political change. >> mr. miller, the politics surrounding the shutdown have been pretty intense, and at times intensely personal. let me play you something congressman david scott of georgia said last night. >> alexander hamilton and thomas jef

jonathan miller of miller samuel, good seeing you. thank you. >> great to see you, thank you. >> last but not least, to the dodos in d.c. because we could, america will be looking at another shutdown, let us bring in jimmy, columnist of the american ernts price in i it ta. handicap it for us. what are the odds we actually get a shutdown no matter how short? >> i don't think we're going to get a shutdown but unfortunately, that's sort of the good news. the bad news the reason i don't think we're going to get a shutdown, republican house leadership can promise to their membership that you know what, we'll keep the government open but go to the mattresses on the debt ceiling. that is a far scarier possibility to have an actual debt ceiling crisis than a government shutdown by even if the government shut down for a week, it hurts employees but as far as the gdp effects it's minimal. >> what about a technical default? >> i think it's unlikely. that will be bad. by technical default, delaying paimtss as opposed to not paying the debt. i thi

talking technicals is jonathan at miller tabake andon stevens with first asset investment management. better? >> hands down it's apple. i think apple has momentum. one thing we saw this weekend is it's back. it's clearly the innovative leader in mobile. plus it's got tons of catalyst, the cloud, the mac book refresh, et cetera. they're both cheap stock, by the way, but i think you have to give it hands down to apple. one thing that was really interesting was the new fingerpri fingerprint. microsoft, you have a company with with a series of problems and catalyst behind it. steve ballmer retired, nothing for surface tablet devices, nothing in office coming out. you have to give it to them. plus the company is dealing with a whole new organizational structure, trying to find a new ceo. all of that. it's got to do that in real time. i think, you know, essentially you have one story that has tons of catalysts coming back and the other where the catalysts are behind it. >> seems like an unfair fight. what do charts say? >> both stocks in the near term are neutral. neither are trending. they

jack rice, ken catsman, hi, my name is jonathan betz, and i'm from dallas, texas, and] >> film fans know sienna miller gracing red carpets around the world for more than a decade. she's also been a global action bass door for the international medical core. the group has done relief world around are the world for decades. miller has helped launch a first responders program. >> it's basically we are trying to enable people in communities to become self efficient, so the best response to a disaster is from the people on the ground from the communities themselves. that is our commitment here at the clinton global initiative. we've launder the celebrities first responders, people who will lend their names in appeals and which had hopefully spike traffic, et cetera. >> how important is it to get those people involved and to help out. >> i think the culture we live in, people respond to that sort of assistance from well known people. it really does make a huge difference for the organization. i feel fortunate to have gotten some of the people we've managed to recruit. >> you've been active, traveling to the