who better to ask than father jonathan morris, fox news contributor, the author of "god wants you happyu preface a segment by saying we are all capitalists, aren't we? >> we are aren't we? >> not everyone is a capitalist. i do believe in the free market as a great source of good for the american people and so many countries around the world. stuart: you are not a capitalist? >> i am. i would say that i believe in the free market, but i'm not maybe a free -- an unbridled capitalist like you, that there should be absolutely no restraint whatsoever. stuart: that's a cute put-down wasn't it, an unbridled capitalist like you. [laughter] stuart: okay, all right. okay, thanksgiving, uniquely american holiday, not many religious connotations, no nationalistic connotations to. it is a family feast, you get together with your family. are we losing our values if 40% of the people actually plan to go shopping on thanksgiving? >> let me start by saying that thanksgiving proclamation by abraham lincoln was actually a very religious statement. i would encourage people to look it up. thanksgiving procl

joining me is father jonathan morris and rabbi joseph petaknak. not going to hear this until well after the election. >> there are dozens of lawsuits against the federal government. not only by catholic organizations, certainly from major catholic organizations like notre dame university, archdiocese of new york but also evangelical and non-christian organizations, what they are doing here, violates a sacred tradition within the united states of america. that is the government protects religious organizations, but then does not get involved in their internal affairs this is a clear violation. >> tom: let me ask you, rabbi, this brings up the question do you get involved -- if you don't want the govern government in your religion, can you get your religion involved in government. should politics be in the pulpit? >> we have seen an unhealthy development, they are too partisan in the pulpit. it helps define issues and then let people decide which candidate and which party brings them closer to the realization of those priorities. we shouldn't be in

>> father jonathan morris is here to explain with lincoln in theaters right now, people rave being this>> good morning. happy thanksgiving to you guys. certainly it does have very strong roots, not any particular denomination in any specific faith, but certainly a god-centered faith. you look at abraham lincoln's thanksgiving proclamation of 1863. i put it up on my facebook page. read the whole thing. it's amazing to see what strong faith our country was very comfortable in accepting. >> because it wasn't a national holiday at that point and many people trace it to this proclamation as launching thanksgiving. >> that's right. he talks about the thanksgiving not just being oh, i am grateful, in other words, an emotion, but what is the source of our bountiful blessings as he refers to th as. and he says that's the almighty god. i encourage people to read it, maybe as a family before thanksgiving meals. that's a great tradition. pointing back to what this is all about. >> you want to read an excerpt is there there. >> i do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the united sta

morris. >> tray is one of our cosponsors >> said jonathan martin birdied two of the decent "politico" where he called a polling kill his son. what he meant was in 1972, polling kill on the upper west side of manhattan said she only knew one person -- >> president -- >> he carried every state of massachusetts. i think something like that less extreme version because obama didn't do as well as mix and come something like that was going on when he had serious people. i accused hewitt the conservative radio talkshow host at me dinner in new york, which he now owes me that romney would win with more than 330th of rowboats. >> to get back to the main subject of a present about obama, one of your "confidence men" and he did a piece about four, five, six days ago was that obama did not mobilize his army of supporters well enough in the first turn in order to truly be who he was. >> it is an error of looking connecticut folks in the white house and some of it was uncharted territory. there is a gap between an affectionate evidence. we all know about that. but having said that, they said they did not

jonathan martin describes the gop media cocoon writing, in this reassuring conservative pocket universe rasmussen polls are gospel, the benghazi controversy is worse than watergate, fair and balanced isn't just marketing, and dick morriss a political seer. this morning former house speaker and republican presidential candidate newt gingrich said he never saw the gop defeat even coming and said it's time for a serious republican postmortem. let's listen to newt. >> i was wrong last week, as was virtually every major republican analyst. and so you have to stop and say to yourself, if i was that far off, what do i need to learn to better understand america? the president won an extraordinary victory, and the fact is we owe him the respect of trying to understand what they did and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmus

morris -- >> i think it was -- is trey grayson here? >> yeah, trey wrote a good piece about this. >> trey is one of our co-sponsors. >> so jonathan martin wrote a terrific piece in politico where he called it cealism, and what he meant was that in 1972 pauline kale, living on the upper west side of manhattan, the great film critic -- >> curtis dixon of -- [inaudible conversations] only knew one person who voted for her. >> for nixon, and he carried every state other than massachusetts. so i think something like that less extreme version because obama didn't do as well as nixon, but something like that was going on. when you had serious people -- i had a bet with hugh hewitt, the conservative radio talk show host, he bet me dinner in new york -- which he now owes me -- was that romney would win with more than 330 electoral votes. >> ron, to get back to the main subject of what we've learned about obama, one of your three cease both in -- theses both in confidence man and an op-ed five, six days ago was that obama did not mobilize his army of supporters well enough in the first term in order to truly be who he was. can you explain that? >