jonathan roche who i know was involved in that effort in hopes it may be a model for some other states. it could be. it shows the possibility of civil disagreement and at least minimal agreement on some very basic ground rules of pluralism. meryl: we talk about civility, let's also talk about what was at one time considered to be a repository of civility. that is the college campus. there's a lot going on right now in terms of religious liberty and free exercise. is the approach being taken on the campuses providing access to everybody? is there a right approach? is there enough respect for civil discourse on campuses now? could campuses do better? kristina: greg is the expert on this issue. i think it is closely associated to the point you have made having to do with civility and empathy and accommodation. when my parents first came to the united states, we lived in a tiny house. in puerto rico, my mother had been in a concentration camp in germany, my father had been in cuba they had some bad , experiences. whenever we sat down to dinner my father would close one window in the kitche