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national political reporter for axios, jonathan swan. catty kay, and coauthor of the political play book, jake sherman. thank you all for being here tonight. i want to focus our conversation here at the beginning of the show on just what, if anything, could possibly happen. jake sherman, this issue is particularly difficult in the house of representatives where the speaker faces a choice about whether or not to put the most likely of these in congress. and feel free to disagree with me, but it seems this fix nix bill that would have made changes to the shooting that happened in sutherland springs could potentially be a st. louis. the house has already passed it but they're demanding other things, concessions to the national rifle association. is there anything that will get done in congress? >> first of all, most of the people i talk to don't believe there is a legislative solution. most republicans. there is a split. there are conservatives in the house who say this is a tipping point. i think if anything happens -- and again, far from
national political reporter for axios, jonathan swan. catty kay, and coauthor of the political play book, jake sherman. thank you all for being here tonight. i want to focus our conversation here at the beginning of the show on just what, if anything, could possibly happen. jake sherman, this issue is particularly difficult in the house of representatives where the speaker faces a choice about whether or not to put the most likely of these in congress. and feel free to disagree with me, but it...
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jonathan swan of axios got our attention today when he reported the kelly cover up is unraveling. quote, john kelly's white house enemies are ready to use fbi director's crist ray's testimony as a weapon. the time line makes one thing clear, the kelly cover up is unraveling right before our eyes, a white house official says. with us tonight robert costa, a national political reporter for "the washington post," moderator of washington week on pbs, and aforementioned jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. jonathan, perhaps you heard me with ashley saying that there's been movement and discussion just since dinnertime here on the east coast about kelly, about potentially cohn as chief of staff. what's your latest best reporting on the future of john kelly? >> well, the problem with movement and discussion is, yes, there's been a lot of movement and discussion. but it's important to distinguish between movement and discussion from people who have limited or very little information about what's actually going on, people who may be at times talking to the president, sugge
jonathan swan of axios got our attention today when he reported the kelly cover up is unraveling. quote, john kelly's white house enemies are ready to use fbi director's crist ray's testimony as a weapon. the time line makes one thing clear, the kelly cover up is unraveling right before our eyes, a white house official says. with us tonight robert costa, a national political reporter for "the washington post," moderator of washington week on pbs, and aforementioned jonathan swan,...
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mo elleithee, emily jashinsky, and jonathan swan. up next a closer look at the "new yorker" story and the playmate and the mystery of her handwritten notes. howie: a piece last week at the "new yorker." mcdougal is a former playboy play mate. and the centerpiece of the story is 8 pages of her handwritten notes. mcdoug alps notes were written a decade later during the 2016 cam pawn or since then. first there was a tale that it was written on a notebook written on a notebook that wasn't manufactured until 2016. the article makes clear the idea to sell her story to american media first occurred in 2016. and her written account is supported by additional sourcing and representation in the article. it seemed like these were contemporaneous notes as "the washington post" put it. the "enquirer" agreed to pay her for the rights to her story about an affair with a married man. the new york quoted ex-staffers. and that he buys a story to kill it. and it bars her from talking about trump. so her friend gave her scribbled notes to the "new yorke
mo elleithee, emily jashinsky, and jonathan swan. up next a closer look at the "new yorker" story and the playmate and the mystery of her handwritten notes. howie: a piece last week at the "new yorker." mcdougal is a former playboy play mate. and the centerpiece of the story is 8 pages of her handwritten notes. mcdoug alps notes were written a decade later during the 2016 cam pawn or since then. first there was a tale that it was written on a notebook written on a notebook...
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jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. we also have harry lit man, deputy assistant attorney general in the clinton administration and a former u.s. attorney. let me start with you, ashley parker, and let me ask you what your understanding is right now about whether or not there are negotiations, whether or not this nunes memo which has gone to the white house now, which the president has now read, whether they are in the process of redacting the sorts of things that give the fbi grave concern. >> so, my understanding is from conversations just recently that a number of things are incredibly up in the air, including what concerns will and will not be addressed, the timing of when the memo will actually be released. but the one thing that is clear and i think is important to remember is that this memo almost certainly will be released and that this in many ways was a preore daned conclusion. my understanding is the president first saw the memo wednesday afternoon when john kelly walked it into the oval office to hand to him
jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. we also have harry lit man, deputy assistant attorney general in the clinton administration and a former u.s. attorney. let me start with you, ashley parker, and let me ask you what your understanding is right now about whether or not there are negotiations, whether or not this nunes memo which has gone to the white house now, which the president has now read, whether they are in the process of redacting the sorts of things that give the fbi...
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jonathan swan good to see you tonight. thanks, jonathan. >> thanks for having me. >> vice president mike pence's faith was openly made fun of by joy behar. oprah winfrey is sounding a lot like mike pence. what is the reaction to the white house to the mueller indictment russians? where will all of this go next. our power panel karl rove, chris stirewalt and austan goolsbee on a friday night weigh in next. ♪ so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. don't we need that cable box to watch tv? nope. don't we need to run? nope. it just explodes in a high pitched 'yeahhh.' yeahhh! try directv now for $10 a month for 3 months. no satellite needed. ♪ >> the defendants pose as politically and socially active americans advocating for and against particular candidates. they established social media pages and groups to communicate with unwitting americans. >> the attorney general rod rosenstein giving a glimpse of ho
jonathan swan good to see you tonight. thanks, jonathan. >> thanks for having me. >> vice president mike pence's faith was openly made fun of by joy behar. oprah winfrey is sounding a lot like mike pence. what is the reaction to the white house to the mueller indictment russians? where will all of this go next. our power panel karl rove, chris stirewalt and austan goolsbee on a friday night weigh in next. ♪ so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that....
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jonathan swan is a national political reporter. ad any updated information since the memo was released, jonathan? >> nothing that would suggest there was scuttle butt that he was considering resigning, from both the white house and justice department, people tell me that's not true. i haven't heard anything to suggest that anything like that would happen. >> dana: we have had indications, not just from the white house but all capitol hill and the fbi agents association all declaring their support of the fbi director. so i would think that if -- it would be unusual for him to resign after that. >> that's right. that's right. >> dana: what about the president's relationship with rod rosenstein? i see that there is a conservative group, tea party patriot, have just come up with a big ad buy calling on deputy attorney general rod rosenstein to do his job or resign. why is that important? >> well, it's important because it's sort of the canary in the right wing compwaoeupb. this is shared by a lot of conservatives and a view shared by th
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>> you meant jonathan capehart, not jonathan swan. >> we have two jonathans here on the set. >> look,ed looking at the trump administration as a normal presidency. >> how abnormal screwed up family? >> it's definitely that. but it's also -- it's operating almost like a crime family. none of the norms, none of the customs that have regulated and ruled the oval office apply to those folks because one, they don't know what they are. and two, they don't care. so in that paragraph that you just read, kelly is not likely to do anything about this, even if the president -- >> does he give him the papers or not? >> i would not be surprised if the president did if jared were stripped of his security clearance, the president wouldn't just say here, take it. >> here is my answer. >> yes. because it takes a void, careless person to think nothing of doing something like that with the nation's biggest secrets. >> when they brought jared in, they start playeding the game of family politics in the white house was not going to work because eventually somebody like kelly trying to do his job comes up a
>> you meant jonathan capehart, not jonathan swan. >> we have two jonathans here on the set. >> look,ed looking at the trump administration as a normal presidency. >> how abnormal screwed up family? >> it's definitely that. but it's also -- it's operating almost like a crime family. none of the norms, none of the customs that have regulated and ruled the oval office apply to those folks because one, they don't know what they are. and two, they don't care. so in...
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go ahead, jonathan swan. >> thank you, chris. there shall be more memos.n told there were more coming and nunes confirmed that tonight. he said there's one more coming out. i'm told there's more than one in the pipeline. >> who is going to write them? >> the same people. it's bringing the band back together. >> your thoughts. >> you kind of mentioned this before. it's really important for people to know though that these fisa warrant applications it's not like you scrawl a grocery list on the back after envelope. they're thick documents that have a lot of facts in them that go through a lot of people. rank and file and then the most senior officials of the fbi and the justice department. to cherry-pick this the way. >> this is much ado about nothing, this whole memo thing. >> i do. >> do you believe. >> the democrats think that, too. >> very erudite. >> i always liked all the aussies i ever met. yamiche, jonathan and ruth, when we return, let me finish tonight with what's happening saturday night in minnesota. you're watching "hardball." (vo) i was born du
go ahead, jonathan swan. >> thank you, chris. there shall be more memos.n told there were more coming and nunes confirmed that tonight. he said there's one more coming out. i'm told there's more than one in the pipeline. >> who is going to write them? >> the same people. it's bringing the band back together. >> your thoughts. >> you kind of mentioned this before. it's really important for people to know though that these fisa warrant applications it's not like you...
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one other bit of jonathan swan, thank you for coming in to join us. of news coming out of washington, the new york times reporting that there is a debate amongst the president's advisers and lawyers are bad whether he should sit down with their special counsel, the president has said that he would like to do so, a p pa re ntly said that he would like to do so, apparently some of his advisers and lawyers are more cautious because the president has a tendency to go backwards and forwards on particular issues and stories and how things actually occurred. we will see how that pans out. let us go back to the top story and the financial markets. the president has not been shy about taking credit for a booming economy, he has treated more than 60 times about the stock market. last august he said that business was looking better than ever, stock market at an all—time high, that does notjust happen. how about this? this is from january, president trump is not getting the credit he deserves for the economy, tax cut bonuses for more than 2 million workers, most
one other bit of jonathan swan, thank you for coming in to join us. of news coming out of washington, the new york times reporting that there is a debate amongst the president's advisers and lawyers are bad whether he should sit down with their special counsel, the president has said that he would like to do so, a p pa re ntly said that he would like to do so, apparently some of his advisers and lawyers are more cautious because the president has a tendency to go backwards and forwards on...
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. >>> noing us now -- joining us now, jonathan swan who has new reportings on where things stand withhite house chief of staff john kelly in the white house that jonathan says everyday is yesterday and last year. >> so it's sort of lord of the flies inside of the white house. tell us about it. >> trump is in what appears to me to be a standoff with the prospects to replace john kelly. the sense we have is that trump wants them to beg for the job. gary cohn, mick mulvaney, kevin mccarthy. they're not going to do that because then they would have to take the job on trump's terms so they're in a bizarre situation which is reminiscent of every single day we've seen so farm in the trump administration where trump is trashing his top staff member to certain people, giving reassurance to other people and the new thing we've reported is in the last few days melania has weighed in on john kelly's behalf. >> really? >> yeah. >> she may have more authority right now. >> has she ever weighed in before? >> she weighed in very heavily against reince priebus. >> i heard throughout the campaign that
. >>> noing us now -- joining us now, jonathan swan who has new reportings on where things stand withhite house chief of staff john kelly in the white house that jonathan says everyday is yesterday and last year. >> so it's sort of lord of the flies inside of the white house. tell us about it. >> trump is in what appears to me to be a standoff with the prospects to replace john kelly. the sense we have is that trump wants them to beg for the job. gary cohn, mick mulvaney,...
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. >> bill: jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. we watched this briefing yesterday. 80% of the questions were about rob porter. on a day when the white house put out a wish list for a $4 trillion budget. how does the white house put the porter issue behind it or just take the beating? >> the problem is they haven't explained how -- you laid it out perfectly in that segment there. the f.b.i. knew about this in january of last year. i was talking to one person, one former white house official, republican who has been hefsh h*efshly involved he said if the f.b.i. is good thing at one thing it is covering their posterior. the idea that the f.b.i. didn't tell anybody in the white house counsel's about it with a high priority for security clearance, it is impossible to fathom that nobody in that white house counsel's office knew about it until november when we're told john kelly was informed partially about these issues. so they haven't actually said who knew what and when. reporters will keep investigating on that. >> bill: another matt
. >> bill: jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. we watched this briefing yesterday. 80% of the questions were about rob porter. on a day when the white house put out a wish list for a $4 trillion budget. how does the white house put the porter issue behind it or just take the beating? >> the problem is they haven't explained how -- you laid it out perfectly in that segment there. the f.b.i. knew about this in january of last year. i was talking to one person, one...
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jonathan swan of axios is reporting that, quote, inside the trump administration, sources who have been briefed on the nunes memo expect it will be underwhelming and not to slam-dunk document it has been hyped up to be. and there is internal anxiety about whether it's worth angering the fbi director and intelligence community by releasing this information. interesting point, three journalists who have been at the center of this story. if i am rucker, julia ainslie, national security and justice reporter, and michael schmidt, washington correspondent. i'm going to start us off, julia, with where the stands, how many hours could we be away from release and the third subpart of my question is what did i hear faye the house might be in session pro forma for this to be made public? >> when we talk about where this stands with the white house, it seems the president has decided, or he even decided a few days ago, that he wanted it to be made public. other people have pointed out. this is something trump has said for a long time, tuesday night at the state of the union, he wants to release thi
jonathan swan of axios is reporting that, quote, inside the trump administration, sources who have been briefed on the nunes memo expect it will be underwhelming and not to slam-dunk document it has been hyped up to be. and there is internal anxiety about whether it's worth angering the fbi director and intelligence community by releasing this information. interesting point, three journalists who have been at the center of this story. if i am rucker, julia ainslie, national security and justice...
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these midterm elections because the tax reform piece has moved forward and there was a quote from jonathan swann axios on the democratic pollster saying republicans have the wrong message but democrats have no message. that that actually, while we are talking about russia, the president has moved forward and the republicans have helped him move forward on policy and democrats have seeded that ground, hoping this would be their saving grace. >> greg: i kind of said the same thing swan said but so much better yesterday. >> kimberly: and he has a nice accent. >> greg: when you are an olympic athlete and all you train for is curling and you have no backup jobs or when the curling is over and the olympic's are gone and you didn't win, you can't -- curling has no transferable skills. >> kimberly: you are still trying to make that work. >> greg: the russian collusion story is there curling they've got to figure out their backup plan. they will probably get one. you know what it will be, that trump is awful. i think you have enough people so vehemently opposed to him. worked with the republicans and ob
these midterm elections because the tax reform piece has moved forward and there was a quote from jonathan swann axios on the democratic pollster saying republicans have the wrong message but democrats have no message. that that actually, while we are talking about russia, the president has moved forward and the republicans have helped him move forward on policy and democrats have seeded that ground, hoping this would be their saving grace. >> greg: i kind of said the same thing swan said...
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gop strategists karl rove, reporter jonathan swan, former democratic congressman dona edwards and kimerlysel of the wall street journal. kim, you didn't go nearly as far as nra folks but you wrote a pretty tough column. i want to put some of it up. age limits and gun restrictions aren't an answer, they are a side show, do you agree with what we just heard from andrew pollack, that that's not the focus and it has to be on keeping schools safe, hardening them like airports? >> i think we are having problem after this because we are finally talking about the things that actually really matter and they are one protecting vulnerable communities. it is no accident that these shooters go to places that are gun-free zones because they know they'll be the only bad person with a weapon and no one there to stop them and, two, mental health, particularly those with severe mental illness and how we both have to get treatment for these people, help them overall but make sure that they do not have easy access to guns and these have been the failings that have been consistent in nearly every one of these
gop strategists karl rove, reporter jonathan swan, former democratic congressman dona edwards and kimerlysel of the wall street journal. kim, you didn't go nearly as far as nra folks but you wrote a pretty tough column. i want to put some of it up. age limits and gun restrictions aren't an answer, they are a side show, do you agree with what we just heard from andrew pollack, that that's not the focus and it has to be on keeping schools safe, hardening them like airports? >> i think we...
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. - - jonathan swan, national political reporter asked rios and fox news correspondent, julia turner. guys, i miss you. people disagree obviously, they are about the substance of the house republican memo. what it shows or what it doesn't show. to a certain degree, haven't the president and republicans already succeeded to the degree they have raised doubts about the fbi playing politics and to that extent, have they undermine the credibility of the special counsel investigation? >> there's no question about that. we saw some polling, we did polling overnight on friday which showed the support for the fbi by republican voters has plummeted significantly in the space of a year. donald trump can move public opinion particularly among the republican voting block like no one else. you saw what he did to the nfl. this no question that the view of the fbi is changing. and that there's been a general muddying of the waters among the electorate. it's not just conservative media. we are seeing it in the mainstream media as well. >>chris: if you get someone like congressman stewart who said at
. - - jonathan swan, national political reporter asked rios and fox news correspondent, julia turner. guys, i miss you. people disagree obviously, they are about the substance of the house republican memo. what it shows or what it doesn't show. to a certain degree, haven't the president and republicans already succeeded to the degree they have raised doubts about the fbi playing politics and to that extent, have they undermine the credibility of the special counsel investigation? >>...
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judicial analyst judge napolitano, and amy stoddard, and jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. amy, i'll start with you. what is real? you know, nancy pelosi said she would rather lose the election than pass something. but what's possible in this environment? >> oh, i don't know what's possible, because we've been here before. they didn't even get legislation out after the nra supported it last summer. we're not looking at a real opportunity here. both sides continue to dig in. if you want to actually change this, you have to actually take away the weaponry with the ability to kill so many people so quickly. that infringes on one constitutional right. if you want to stop -- get in early and screen social media, you're infringing -- where people are describing these feelings and these plans, and intentions of photographs and everything, you're taking away their constitutional expression of free speech. >> bret: we hear what the president says. but behind the scenes what is the president thinking? is there a thinking about a policy push? >> one advised me that this is theo
judicial analyst judge napolitano, and amy stoddard, and jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. amy, i'll start with you. what is real? you know, nancy pelosi said she would rather lose the election than pass something. but what's possible in this environment? >> oh, i don't know what's possible, because we've been here before. they didn't even get legislation out after the nra supported it last summer. we're not looking at a real opportunity here. both sides continue to...
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it reported for ask eos, jonathan swan. former democratic congresswoman donna edwards.imberley strassel of "the wall street journal." you didn't go nearly as far as the nra folks did what you wrote a pretty tough column in "the wall street journal" on friday. i want to put some of it up. if you write and gun restrictions aren't an answer, they are a sideshow. do you agree with what we just heard from andrew pollack with that is not the focus and it has to be on keeping school safe, hardening them like airports? >> i think that we are having progress this time after this because we are finally talking about the things that actually really matter. and they are one, protecting vulnerable communities. it is no accident that the shooters go to places that are gun free zones because they know they will be the only bad person with a weapon and no one there to stop them. and two, mental health. those with severe mental illness and how we have to get treatment for these people overall and make sure they do not have easy access to guns. these are the failings that have been consi
it reported for ask eos, jonathan swan. former democratic congresswoman donna edwards.imberley strassel of "the wall street journal." you didn't go nearly as far as the nra folks did what you wrote a pretty tough column in "the wall street journal" on friday. i want to put some of it up. if you write and gun restrictions aren't an answer, they are a sideshow. do you agree with what we just heard from andrew pollack with that is not the focus and it has to be on keeping...
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let's bring in jonathan swan. he might be a dog choking expert. i don't know. e is a national political reporter for axios. jonathan, we can go on all day. mitt romney in 2016 tweeted, if trump said four years ago the things he said today about kkk, muss limbs, mexicans, disabled, i wouldn't have accepted his endorsement. he says that now. accepting president trump's endorsement today, is he just playing smart politics because it does not behoove mitt romney to get on the wrong side of president trump and give rise to an alt-right candidate to run against him? >> i don't know about that. i think being on the wrong side of donald trump in utah is just fine. obviously, romney has been on the wrong side of president trump. i source close to romney told me this morning he didn't seek president trump's endorsement. i believe that to be true. and i've been asking around, people in the white house, about president trump's position. i haven't got the full tick-tock of what happened, but a full people have pointed out to me that if you pay attention to trump, this is com
let's bring in jonathan swan. he might be a dog choking expert. i don't know. e is a national political reporter for axios. jonathan, we can go on all day. mitt romney in 2016 tweeted, if trump said four years ago the things he said today about kkk, muss limbs, mexicans, disabled, i wouldn't have accepted his endorsement. he says that now. accepting president trump's endorsement today, is he just playing smart politics because it does not behoove mitt romney to get on the wrong side of...
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jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. and fox news correspondent gillian turner. miss you. [laughs] but we are in the dark over here. jonathan, people are going to disagree, obviously they are, about the substance of the house republican memo, what it shows or what it doesn't show. to a certain degree, having the president and republicans already succeeded to agree that they have raised doubts about the fbi playing politics and, to that extent, have they undermined the credibility of the special counsel investigation? >> if there's no question about that. if we saw some polling -- we did some polling overnight on friday which sewed the support for the fbi among republican voters has plummeted significantly in the space of a year, and donald trump can move public opinion, particularly among republican voting docket like nobody else. you saw what he did to the nfl. there's no question that it's changing. there's no question that there's been a general muddying of the waters among the electorate. it's not just conservative media. we are seeing it in the media as well.
jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios. and fox news correspondent gillian turner. miss you. [laughs] but we are in the dark over here. jonathan, people are going to disagree, obviously they are, about the substance of the house republican memo, what it shows or what it doesn't show. to a certain degree, having the president and republicans already succeeded to agree that they have raised doubts about the fbi playing politics and, to that extent, have they undermined the...
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jonathan swan has four sources who say they have spoken directly with trump who say his comments aboutter have been brutal. and, yamiche, there is some discrepancy here about, you know, the president's past history, yes, sam's point is absolutely well taken. however, he also seems to say or has said in the past that men who are violent towards their wives will never change and they always will be, which makes this axios reporting interesting. >> it's interesting, but it's complex. but when i think about kellyanne going on tv saying this is all sides, it takes me back to charlottesville and the idea of both sides. this is an administration that is always trying to balance not -- not really seeming as though it's intro speculative while also trying to play this false equivalency on issues that really aren't. like racism, domestic violence. there is usually one side you can pick on those kind of issues. the other problem is this is a president who stands accused of multiple women of being sexually inappropriate. he has to be carefully as he wades into this me too environment. he can't say
jonathan swan has four sources who say they have spoken directly with trump who say his comments aboutter have been brutal. and, yamiche, there is some discrepancy here about, you know, the president's past history, yes, sam's point is absolutely well taken. however, he also seems to say or has said in the past that men who are violent towards their wives will never change and they always will be, which makes this axios reporting interesting. >> it's interesting, but it's complex. but...
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jonathan swan at axios says captain john duncan has already sit down for an interview.e's on the list because he's the president's pilot. but if he gets the job it won't be because he's the president's pilot. we'll be right back. at ally, we offer low rates on home loans. but if that's not enough, we offer our price match guarantee too. and if that's not enough... we should move. our home team will help you every step of the way. still not enough? it's smaller than i'd like. we'll help you...
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your teammate jonathan swan wrote, quote, even in a white house that is famous for chaos, i've never seen anything like it. swan wrote, john kelly might be sending his team out with one message of what happened but they consider john kelly a liar and from those who i speak to in the white house, they've said to me, he's standing alone. no one is going to back john kelly except the president here. >> this is day seven of the white house answering questions about rob porter when they wanted this to be infrastructure week. >> a guy who we never heard of a week ago. >> and budget day. but there's still no specific time line and even this weekend, the administration people out saying slightly different things. so, stephanie, over the weekend, jonathan and i talk to associates on both sides of this. someone who talked directly to general kelly, the white house chief of staff, about his story, and associates of rob porter, and we're told very different things. the associates of rob porter told us that he said that people in the white house had urged him to stay and fight. and he said that h
your teammate jonathan swan wrote, quote, even in a white house that is famous for chaos, i've never seen anything like it. swan wrote, john kelly might be sending his team out with one message of what happened but they consider john kelly a liar and from those who i speak to in the white house, they've said to me, he's standing alone. no one is going to back john kelly except the president here. >> this is day seven of the white house answering questions about rob porter when they wanted...
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i'm told that that was green lit, there they are walking in, jonathan swan, josh dawsy, maggie haberman. this happened right before the briefing. i'm told today by a source that that operation was green lit by kelly. >> if that's the case, that shows you that he is, again, the effort to sort of cover his tracks in this. that there's a real attempt at damage control. the white house's story has changed about a half dozen times in as many days since the porter allegations first were made public. and i think we're seeing there's an effort in there to try to, you know, as much as there's a camp that wants john kelly out, there's certainly others who are trying to protect him and chief of staff, himself, is, of course, seems like he's leading that charge. where he has given a few interviews, on the record interviews in recent days including one today where he was asked if they had any regrets, if they needed to make any changes to how they handled the porter case. he said, no, it was handled the right way. >> matt, let me get you back in on this on the question of the white house counsel. an
i'm told that that was green lit, there they are walking in, jonathan swan, josh dawsy, maggie haberman. this happened right before the briefing. i'm told today by a source that that operation was green lit by kelly. >> if that's the case, that shows you that he is, again, the effort to sort of cover his tracks in this. that there's a real attempt at damage control. the white house's story has changed about a half dozen times in as many days since the porter allegations first were made...
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gop strategists karl rove, reporter jonathan swan, former democratic congressman dona edwards and kimerlysel of the wall street journal. kim, you didn't go nearly as far as nra folks but you wrote a pretty tough column. i want to put some of it up. age limits and gun restrictions aren't an answer, they are a side show, do you agree with what we just heard from andrew pollack, that that's not the focus and it has to be on keeping schools safe, hardening them like airports? >> i think we are having problem after this because we are finally talking about the things that actually really matter and they are one protecting vulnerable communities. it is no accident that these shooters go to places that are gun-free zones because they know they'll be the only bad person with a weapon and no one there to stop them and, two, mental health, particularly those with severe mental illness and how we both have to get treatment for these people, help them overall but make sure that they do not have easy access to guns and these have been the failings that have been consistent in nearly every one of these
gop strategists karl rove, reporter jonathan swan, former democratic congressman dona edwards and kimerlysel of the wall street journal. kim, you didn't go nearly as far as nra folks but you wrote a pretty tough column. i want to put some of it up. age limits and gun restrictions aren't an answer, they are a side show, do you agree with what we just heard from andrew pollack, that that's not the focus and it has to be on keeping schools safe, hardening them like airports? >> i think we...
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jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios, and betsy woodruff, politics reporter for the daily beast. we'll have more on the market watch as well and play 24ru what it means for people. can i call you out? because during jeff's live shot when he was talking about how the white house's silence is intentional, you gave a face that could only be described, charitably, as skeptical. >> well, the notion that trump is focused on the long-term fundamentals of the economy is news to anyone who -- of his staff who've spoken to him about this because he follows the stock market like a pundit, like one of the people on cnbc, the markets guy that you just had on. trump watches it, takes credit for it. one adviser described it to me as his new fetish, that's a quote from them. and it's in some ways replaced polls because during the election he loved to boast about the polls. >> he watched those like a hawk. >> and he hasn't had much to boast about. they've improved a bit recently so the stock market has become his new "this is my signal of success." it's also internally become something his
jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios, and betsy woodruff, politics reporter for the daily beast. we'll have more on the market watch as well and play 24ru what it means for people. can i call you out? because during jeff's live shot when he was talking about how the white house's silence is intentional, you gave a face that could only be described, charitably, as skeptical. >> well, the notion that trump is focused on the long-term fundamentals of the economy is news to...
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a white house official today told jonathan swan, the fbi timeline makes one thing clear, the kelly cover-up is unraveling before our eyes. as if one schedule, anthony scaramucci tweeted this. based on the fbi testimony, chief of staff john kelly almost certainly knew about credible allegations of domestic abuse against rob porter at least six months ago. then recently forced others to lie about that timeline. inexcusable. he must resign. meanwhile sarah sanders was asked what kelly knew and when. let's watch. >> is the white house still maintaining that john kelly really had no idea about these allegations of domestic abuse until this story broke. >> i can only give you the best information that i have, and that's my understanding. >> did you hear what she said? i can only give you account information they hand me to parrot out here. we're joined by eddie glowed, the chairman of the center for african-american studies. thank you so much. you're getting here late. you got trapped out of the studio for some reason. let's catch on here. this is about a cover-up as ruth said of i a cover-up. be
a white house official today told jonathan swan, the fbi timeline makes one thing clear, the kelly cover-up is unraveling before our eyes. as if one schedule, anthony scaramucci tweeted this. based on the fbi testimony, chief of staff john kelly almost certainly knew about credible allegations of domestic abuse against rob porter at least six months ago. then recently forced others to lie about that timeline. inexcusable. he must resign. meanwhile sarah sanders was asked what kelly knew and...
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for more i'm joined by axios reporter jonathan swan, jennifer rubin and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. so why the tirade? why did he go wacko over the weekend with these tweets? somebody said it's because he couldn't play golf because the school horror. that would look bad, until today. so he was forced to go inside and watch television. excuse me, is this how the presidency works these days? >> well, i'm going to shock you to say that yes, the president does watch quite a bit of television. and yes, he gets -- >> even on sunny days in florida? >> even on sunny days in florida. and he gets deeply, deeply irritated when people state the facts about this russia investigation which is that there was a concerted effort led by the kremlin. people like to say he only watches fox, but he actually toggles a lot. i wouldn't even be surprised if he is watching you, chris. >> no, i think he probably just smiles watching some of the networks. go ahead, jennifer. but it is weird. a president of the united states who has all the tools of communication resorts to tweeting in this so
for more i'm joined by axios reporter jonathan swan, jennifer rubin and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. so why the tirade? why did he go wacko over the weekend with these tweets? somebody said it's because he couldn't play golf because the school horror. that would look bad, until today. so he was forced to go inside and watch television. excuse me, is this how the presidency works these days? >> well, i'm going to shock you to say that yes, the president does watch quite...
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let's go to jonathan swan now for axios. great to be here.ou. >> thanks for having me. >> shepard: in the grand scheme of things, where is this investigation based on your report something. >> there's two parts to the investigation. we often forget about the second part, the criminal side and the counter intelligence side. what we hear about day to day in washington and look at our own fault as washington reporters, the limits of our sources. we've taken to people that have spoken with mueller. so we get their perspective. the mueller team is not leaking. but there's this other part of the investigation to which -- you pointed this out in your intro. we don't have much visibility. so we see these revelations with 13 russian names. you haven't seen a single one of them mentioned or teased or forecast in the press. nobody talked about george papadopoulos. so we can see the white house interviews seem to be coming towards an end. but i much point out, a later end than trump's lawyers suggested. we don't know because there's a counter intelligenc
let's go to jonathan swan now for axios. great to be here.ou. >> thanks for having me. >> shepard: in the grand scheme of things, where is this investigation based on your report something. >> there's two parts to the investigation. we often forget about the second part, the criminal side and the counter intelligence side. what we hear about day to day in washington and look at our own fault as washington reporters, the limits of our sources. we've taken to people that have...
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jonathan swan ohio think is extremely fair says this.s guilty. he says the president has told multiple people that he believes the accusations against porter are true and finds him sick. tell him his private comments about the exaid whose two exwives accuse him of violent attacks have been brutal. president is just outraged as many americans about the alleged domestic abuse which looks pretty strong, the evidence strong against porter. why won't he said that publicly or do you think jonathan swan is wrong? >> well, i don't know if he is going to say that publicly or not. and i have not spoken with the president about this. can i say, you know, we lean on a process here at the white house and quite frankly, as soon as we found out about this on tuesday, by wednesday, rob porter was gone. of the president has been very clear, that all forms of abuse, all forms of battery against women horrible and disgusting. brian: he hasn't said that. >> right. you haven't talked to him today. obviously he said that multiple times in the past. in this pa
jonathan swan ohio think is extremely fair says this.s guilty. he says the president has told multiple people that he believes the accusations against porter are true and finds him sick. tell him his private comments about the exaid whose two exwives accuse him of violent attacks have been brutal. president is just outraged as many americans about the alleged domestic abuse which looks pretty strong, the evidence strong against porter. why won't he said that publicly or do you think jonathan...
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one of the reporters for axios was on special report last night jonathan swan, crack white house reporterhe talked about the fact this could be a nixon to china moment in the sense that somebody who is a big supporter could push for some gun controls. but as jonathan said he doesn't think the president wants to go to china. in other words, he is a strong believer -- he has changed his view over the years but strong believer in the second amendment. it was one of his strongest lines on the campaign trail, full support for the right to bear arms. so whether he has any interest at all in going down that route and limiting, if not people's right to you guns, that has been settled by the supreme court court but limiting assault weapons. limiting the high-capacity magazines. there is certainly no indication of it so far. no coincidence the president never mentioned the word guns. a lot of people think it's not the problem. the problem is mental health and lack of security. that the wrong people are getting guns and we're not enforcing the laws we already have. it is like a lot of issues. you ca
one of the reporters for axios was on special report last night jonathan swan, crack white house reporterhe talked about the fact this could be a nixon to china moment in the sense that somebody who is a big supporter could push for some gun controls. but as jonathan said he doesn't think the president wants to go to china. in other words, he is a strong believer -- he has changed his view over the years but strong believer in the second amendment. it was one of his strongest lines on the...
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and i think and jonathan swan in axios, the president wants to increase the age to 21 to buy guns, tryhat to members of congress whose kids at 19 years old own guns and go hunting. >> they don't do that with ar-15s. >> i come from a district where people started hunting with their dad and grand dad at 5 and 6 years old. and i've taken my kids out shooting. it's -- and people from my district, not scared of guns, have guns in their house just like the bre zzezinskis had 3 o four rifles locked up in their house. after newtown, i had so many friends -- went to first baptist church with that hunted all the time. that's what they did in the fall. went to college football and out hunting. they all said the same thing. said none of us need an ar-15. >> so i ask that question yesterday and somebody said to me, well fine, ban ar-15, someone will go in with a pistol and what will you tell me, government should ban all pistols? i'm not advocating for this position but this is the way a large number of republicans think about this debate. >> always a slippery slope argument but david ignatius, at
and i think and jonathan swan in axios, the president wants to increase the age to 21 to buy guns, tryhat to members of congress whose kids at 19 years old own guns and go hunting. >> they don't do that with ar-15s. >> i come from a district where people started hunting with their dad and grand dad at 5 and 6 years old. and i've taken my kids out shooting. it's -- and people from my district, not scared of guns, have guns in their house just like the bre zzezinskis had 3 o four...
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brian: jonathan swan, a great story there.eir school in parkland, florida. this weekend, seven members of the majory stoneman douglas high school football team inspired by their hero coach aaron feis attended, who died last week attended the orange bowl's high school recruiting showcase. brian: players say it was what coach feis would have wanted. rob schmitt spoke to the team about the event and their coach and his legacy. rob: the definition of a hero is what i would saw about assistant coach aaron feis. he actually jumped in front of bullets trying to save lives of students at this school when this gunman opened fire in this horrific event. and over the weekend, there was a combine for football players here, a chance to get a scholarship and move on to college. these kids had a choice to make about whether or not to go out there and try to do this after the week that they had had. they made the decision the night before saying this is what coach feis would have wanted. coach feis would have been with you here today. >> coac
brian: jonathan swan, a great story there.eir school in parkland, florida. this weekend, seven members of the majory stoneman douglas high school football team inspired by their hero coach aaron feis attended, who died last week attended the orange bowl's high school recruiting showcase. brian: players say it was what coach feis would have wanted. rob schmitt spoke to the team about the event and their coach and his legacy. rob: the definition of a hero is what i would saw about assistant coach...