lina nguyen, and jonathan swan who first reported about this clash. jonathan, i want to start with you. help the viewers to understand how we have fauchi speaking out how difficult it is to navigate donald trump at that podium. and you have got what sounds like a little bit of eagerness to perhaps jump the gun on donald trump's part and try to move out of this phase of social distancing. >> so i have been hearing this from the white house officials from the last three or four days, five days and we published the story first thing this morning. trump is losing patience is the bottom line with the public health prescriptions that the economy needs to stay in an effective state of shutdown and that people need to stay home, and that businesses need to shutdown. and the perspective, and i have spoken to a number of people inside of the white house and outside of the white house who have spoken directly to the president about this, and the way he is thinking about it is that we could, you know, it is this tradeoff between frankly death count and whatever mi

we've had some great reporting the last hour from jonathan swan and jonathan lemire that he is frankly frustrated that he can't get the economy going. what's behind the denial that the medical emergency is very much ahead of us? >> reporter: the economic numbers, right? when you talk to the economists, admittedly those advising the president say the numbers will be exceedingly grim. the president hasn't used the d word, hasn't said depression. it will be interesting to see how close he gets or warning about recession. kevin hassett is working in the west wing, joined friday, he warned probability of recession was 100%. they're looking at the numbers. the president is looking at what's happening in the economy. he's really been silent today after the initial tweet, talking about the cure being worse than the problem. we have a little bit of insight, not a little, a big one, when you see lindsey graham advocating don't turn off the self containment measures, don't change the guidelines that you announced seven days ago that were supposed to be in there for 15 days. when lindsey graham go

jonathan swan, thank you very much. taking your data sounds a little creepy. >> yeah. personal information. >> exactly. >> poking you on facebook. >> yeah. jonathan swan a pleasure. thank you. reading axios a.m. in a bit. sign up for the newsletter at signup@axios.com. >>> that does it for us. i'm yasmin vossoughian along side ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i told you all if you can launch a candidacy, you launched bill clinton, barack obama to the presidency, and now you launched our campaign on the path to defeating donald trump! [ cheers and applause ] >> we have won the popular vote

. >>> joining us now with a look at axios am, political reporter for axios, jonathan swan.o have you with us. what is the one big thing this morning? >> we have a very detailed report from my colleagues on the timeline of how this coronavirus emerged in china. when you lay it all out, the detail of the way that the authorities concealed critical information, not just the famous case of the doctor who was detained and forced to retract his statements when he put them out, but everything from censorship of social media to the false statements that were actually put out by authorities as late as january the 15th, telling people that human-to-human transmission was very unlikely to happen. it's just terrible because when you talk to epidemiologists, you talk to the experts, these critical, early three weeks -- i mean, there is a university of southampton study that shows there'd be 95% reduction in cases in china had it been three weeks earlier. the chinese authorities often say don't intervene in our domestic policies. this is an example where chinese policies have harm on the

let's bring in jonathan swan national reporter and he also just interviewed the chinese ambassador tothan, i watched every minute of it. i want to play this exchange because i thought -- i wanted to get your take on this because what was going through your mind when he was saying that stuff? >> it was actually, the spokesman for the chinese ministry of foreign affairs who is being spreading this conspiracy that the virus originated in the u.s. does he have any evidence to support that theory? i mean, have you asked him? you are they ambassador. >> no, i'm here representing my state my government and what they need to do for the individual. >> does he ever speak to the chinese government or do you? >> i am the representative of china in the united states. >> dana: all right, jonathan. tell me what you were thinking at that time? >> i was thinking, did he say what i am hearing? it was a remarkable sequence because as you know, one of the biggest problems in the u.s./china relationship right now is the fact that the chinese ministry of foreign affairs has a spokesman who has continued to

with a look at axios am, political reporter jonathan swan. good to speak, as always.his morning? >> good morning. we look aide story of how trump, the pressures trump came under to make this decision to extend the national social distancing guidelines and shut down an extra month. it wasn't just his public health officials, dr. fauci and dr. birx, but the governor pressure was immense. i interviewed larry hogan, republican governor in maryland. he is the chair of the national governors' association. he is coordinating between the nationwide governors. he is in a rare position because he can speak his mind. he's not up for re-election. he is a republican in a blue state, and he speaks for many when he says -- he said to me, quote, if trump had gone to his easter timeline, quote, it'd be very harmful because we'd obviously not listen to that. we'd obviously not listen to that. he said on the record had trump gone through with that, he would have ignored it and followed the scientistic and doctor guidelines. he had been talking to white house officials over the weekend a

jonathan swan of axios closely fold reporter, he says congress' inhouse doctor told capitol hill stafferss week that he expects 75 to 150 million people in the united states, that's roughly a third of the population of this country, to contract the coronavirus it's why people like dr. anthony fauci said we have to start taking this more seriously he has said if you have to play nba games, for example, in arenas with no spectators in his words, so be it. you got an ncaa basketball tournament which is on the horizon. thousands of fans every day pouring in to arenas across this country in four big region, right >> sitting shoulder to shoulder. >> critical decisions have to be made in hours, days ahead that the market is going to be watching closely for it matters to the market what happens here forward >> so those numbers you said 75 to 150 million is that what you said >> according to the reporting from jonathan swan who is tweeting this out from axios congress' doctor told staffers on the hill. >> i have no idea nor are you presuming whether that takes place with or without the ncaa tourna

let's bring in our panel, jonathan swan national political reporter from axios and susan ferruccio. your thoughts on warren, the president loves to get in there and have his thoughts on the democratic race but he may be right -- had she endorsed bernie sanders it would have made a difference in several of those states he lost. >> i'm not entirely sure about that. i think warren's backers, some of them would go for sanders but some of them wouldn't and that is shown in the polling to see who the second choice might be. i think you see that going forward. who are warren's voters going to go for? i think sanders will get some of them and i think biden will too. i don't see her voters as a definite vote for the liberal lane as we are discussing it i think for warren, she had a lot of issues -- she was a woman, i know a lot of people are saying i think she had issues with explaining how her various plans would work. i think she had a credibility issue, likability issue and that is pretty much the reason why she didn't win. >> bret: what about the lack of an endorsement? she didn't come o

. >> jonathan swan, the president appeared on fox and friends.e a listen. >> we're thinking around easter. that will be your spike. that will be the highest point and it's going to start coming down from there. that will be a day of celebration. we just want to do it right. we pick the end of april, the last day, april 30th as the day where we can see some real progress. we expect to see that. >> jonathan, when you look at the president, he's adjusted his messaging. has he gotten to place where he can live with what the experts say or will zigzagging play out during this pandemic. >> i hesitate to promise you consistent messaging from president trump for the future. i think that would be a foolish thing to suggest. oval office meeting on sunday afternoon has been a little over dramati dramatized. i'm told by people who are familiar with his thinking he made up his mind before that meeting. it was sort of a final meeting where dr. fauci and birx presented the statistics. the television he was watching, the images he have seeing out of new york on

. >> jonathan swan, thank you very much. we will be reading axios am in just a bit.on this monday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> if i win, it's going to cost me a lot of money. it costs billions of dollars to become president. when i ran i said it's going to cost me a fortune. look at my legal costs. i think it's hard for rich people to run for office. there are a lot of rich people around, got a lot of rich friends. cost me billions of dollars to be president, especially with all the m

jonathan swan from axios. great to have you here. what did you find? so on february 22nd, we found the food and drug administration's regulator timothy stenzel, he was sent to the center for disease control's atlanta laboratory to help them figure out what was going wrong. because you've seen the government talk about problems with the diagnostic test kits. obviously the united states is well behind south korea, china, other countries in mass producing and getting these tests out to market for coronavirus. so we've heard about, you know, potentially problems with free agents and other things. this fda regular gator gets to the laboratory and was alarmed by what he saw there in terms of the procedures and possible contamination in the laboratory. he reported this back to the government. it was escalated to the highest levels and was discussed in a conference call on thursday afternoon. interagency conference call that included the department of health and human services, fda, and cdc. now, what they've told us -- they are still not telling us what exact

. >> senior administration officials told my colleague, jonathan swan, the president has been watchings home state of new york. that really, according to his officials, pulled on his heart strings and made him consider the deadline and timeline he'd otherwise imposed on himself. others were saying easter wasn't a deadline that needed to be met. he was listening to someone like treasury secretary steven mnuchin, who was telling him the payments the government was giving, $1200, as well as the stock market settling down, would work out in the end and offset the blow americans are feeling now. president trump, he was arguing, didn't have to make hasty decisions to reopen the economy by april 12th, as he previously said. those are sort of some of the behind the scenes things that led to president trump changing his decision, which he otherwise was steadfast about reopening things by easter. >> alalexi, stay well. we'll read axios am in a little bit. signup.axios.com. >>> that does it for me on this tuesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >> we're very worri

speaking of that, doctor, let me ask you about what feels like -- jonathan swan reported yesterday there's guaranteed collision coming between donald trump and his desire to turn back on the economy and the public health and scientists who advise him about the time at which we turn the economy back on and get people out of their homes. what's your take on that debate and that divide? >> absolutely. you know, this was something certainly we did not have anything of this magnitude around during president obama's time but we were all planning for something like this and here's the facts. having even just an extra two weeks would even help us. that's .04% of an average american's lifetime could prevent a roller coaster effect where if we think that resuming the economy will make this not go away we are wrong and we could experience an even -- imagine the volatility if we see a resurgence and remember this virus is not attacking the country evenly. we are already seeing concerning hot spots in new orleans, florida, parts of texas, my home state. we are not going to just be out of this in severa

jonathan swan, thank you very much. anytime politicians is taking your data sounds a little creepy. >> yeah. personal information. >> exactly. >> poking you on facebook. >> yeah. jonathan swan a pleasure. thank you. reading axios a.m. in a bit. sign up for the newsletter at signup@axios.com. >>> that does it for us. i'm yasmin vossoughian along side ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i told you all if you can launch a candidacy, you launched bill clinton, barack obama to the presidency, and now you launched our campaign on the path to defeating donald trump! [ cheers and applause ] >> we have won the popular vote in iowa. [ cheers ] we have won the new hampshire primary. [ cheers ] we have won the nevada caucus. [ cheers ] but -- you cannot win them all. >> honestly, i can't see a path where i can win the presidency. so am i going to continue to work on every single one of these issues? yes, of course i am, because i've never stopped. >> the two most important words that need to be written about the tr

that is what jonathan swan reports.n capitol hill, the senate along with the administration led by the treasury's -- treasury secretary and the leaders in the house, speaker, arethe minority leader still negotiating on this third economic stimulus aid package. they have yet to get the votes that they need in the senate send it to the house for an agreement, this morning, kelly no kelly mcmanus tweets out " final stimulus bill yet, negotiators say that tuesday is the day." and we will know more as we go along. it has also been reported that nancy pelosi will do an interview at 9:00 30 -- 9:35 after the markets open up. the impact of this outbreak on california,ty, in you are up first. good morning. caller: good morning. the $1200ke to say on that the people are supposed to personing, that if a , thatlive on $600 a month would give people enough food and gasoline for 12 months -- and, if the banks would not charge anybody for those two months in the economy would -- or mortgages, you would not have to worry about any pena

that's why these lessons need to be learned going forward >> jonathan swan, thank you.ou are opening yourself up to book judgment on your bookshelf there. it's happened to all of us get ready. people will be looking to see what -- oh, i see "good night moon." you're not quite as sophisticated as some of us. "very hungry caterpillar". >> yeah, yeah, that's what i stick to >> thanks,on thap. >> thanks, guys. >> the immediate fate -- i do know the names of those books. the immediate fate of the airline industry could be decided soon as bailout talks in washington are settled phil lebeau joins us now with more aerospace, automobiles, bring it to us, phil. what's on your mind this morning? >> well, we're talking about airlines we'll talk a little about boeing because there has been news with boeing overnight the airlines, premarket these stocks are under pressure. the question is this $50 billion bailout being debated on capitol hill the senate favors these happen in the form of loans not in the form of cash grants that would immediately go to the airlines that is not what t

jonathan swan, stay safe and healthy. >> you, too. >> sign up at signup.axios.com. >>> that does it for me on this monday morning. aymi "morning joe" starts now. >>> i grew up near elmhurst, queens. elmhurst hospital. i know it, where it is. i can tell you the color on the outside, the size of the windows. i know it very well, right? it was near my community where i lived. i've been watching that for the last week on television, body bags all over, in hallways. i've been watching them bring in trailer trucks, freezer trucks. freezer trucks because they can't handle the bodies. there's so many of them. this is, essentially in my community, queens, new york. i've seen things i've never seen before. >> over the bridge from queens, there is now an emergency field hospital being built in central park to help deal with the overflow of those sickened by the coronavirus. this is the new grim reality on this monday morning. streets lined up with refrigerated trucks, acting as makeshift morgues, while hospital staff and first responders struggle to keep their heads above the dizzying death toll.

. >> jonathan swan, thank you very much. we will be reading axios am in just a bit. that does it for us on this monday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> if i win, it's going to cost me a lot of money. it costs billions of dollars to become president. when i ran i said it's going to cost me a fortune. look at my legal costs. i think it's hard for rich people to run for office. there are a lot of rich people around, got a lot of rich friends. cost me billions of dollars to be president, especially with all the money i could have made for the last three or four years. i got elected as a rich person. it cost me billions of dollars to be president and i am so happy i did it. who cares. who cares. >> all right. that is the president of the united states talking about his net worth during this national crisis. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is monday, march 23rd. >> so, mika, it's interesting, you and i had a different reaction to yesterday. >> yep. >> we also -- i mean obviously we've been very concerned from the very beginning, we've expressed ou

swan being thrown around. it is good to know the economy is on solid footing. jonathanyou were the first person that has sat around this table with me and described any of this price action as something like christmas morning. gershon, i don't know if you share that sentiment. gershon: i am kind of worried. i've been doing this for 23 years, and this is the first time where nobody cared about the jobs report. i am a glass half-full type of guy, i'm usually a buyer of dips. a value type of investor. i am particularly worried. this is not a normal type of crisis. this is not where you would see growth slow down a little bit. there is a real chance economic activity comes to a halt. if people stop traveling, congregating, you will not want to see the next set of numbers. typical monetary policy does not work in this type of environment. you will need a huge step up on the fiscal side, and even that may not be enough. that could be very worrisome for asset prices. george: i agree with that. but i think there is another side of this that will come out. but you are right, the