. >> jonathan warren is a purple-heart vet having served two tours in iraq. >> what was your first reaction to revisiting the horror through the virtual reality, prolonged exposure therapy. >>ists terrified. it was -- it was scary to go and confront the thing that i had been avoiding so much and in a way that was going to stimulate my vision and my sounds and my feelings. it was -- it was full immersion and i just felt so bad that i couldn't keep living like that. i was willing to be miserable and to be sad and to experience more pain to get through it and to get to the other side. >> in iraq, it's in the afternoon, and i am on the no-name route driving through the city. i see the women and children are all heading back into the >>> has this virtual reality treatment helped you in terms of coping with the ptsd? >> i knew it wasn't going to be all of the sudden boom, cured, but i knew i was being given tools to help me evaluate what the anxiety was about. >> what was the specific horror that you couldn't revisit? >>ists having a lot of guilt over the situation. i was confront with the questi

warren. also with you tonight a jonathan alter.. >> gentlemen, were you surprised by this? you first, your thoughts on these numbers. >> i also know political reality has alleges been bought. targeted direct mail television and now the internet quality journalism has always been dwarfed. what are the differences today? partly as a result of citizen united the staggers sums that you alluded to. when you look at local coverage it looks like lesser and lesser political coverage as you've got, i think, a in species of lohse believes that politics is boring, and you know it well of crash and murders and sports and weather with smiling bob and sally, and there you go the sumpses is folks aren't interested in it but that's the marketplace reality. >> jonathan isn't there a real potential problem here that all of the sudden the sales department starts running the local news department that maybe we don't want to run this stories. because this cant might be spenting a lot of money? what about that? >> well that can happen but if they're not

james warren jonathan alter, appreciate the time tonight. thank you for joining us. >>> that is "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. \s. >> good evening, ed. i'm live in chicago tonight. breaking news tonight. we're awaiting a statement from the attorney for 20-year-old martis johnson. he's the 20-year-old university of virginia student whose arrest is making national headlines. it was this picture that went viral, showing his face bloodied while handcuffed this week that is triggering protests around uva and renewing questions about policing in this country. the incident occurring early wednesday morning outside a bar near campus. two agents from the department of alcoholic beverage control made an arrest handcuffing johnson and bringing him to the ground. >> i go to uva. i go to uva, you [ bleep ]. i go to uva, [ bleep ]. how is this happening? how did this happen? >> they were just like yo -- >> johnson is charged on two counts -- obstruction of justice without force, and public s