here in manhattan, we're happy to have jonathan waxman in dy say the name right? >> jonathan, it's great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> your reputation, have i to say, precedes you. i'm going back to the little jonathan who says you have to babysit your younger siblings. your parents go out and say, the kitchen is all yours. you go in the kitchen and you see what? how old were you, by the way? >> i was probably like 8 or 9 years old. my brothers were two years younger than me, so my youngest brother was 4. i got the joy of cooking. i went right to the cookie section. and i saw shortbread cookies. i said, i have to make those. that's the first thing i made for them. >> wow. >> we had shortbread cookies. slightly burnt and really hot but really delicious. >> and then you knew you liked cooking. >> it was really -- it was those word sort of things that happen in life like i was always comfortable doing it. i was always comfortable in the kitchen. >> i just saw a picture, mo, of some chicken. >> i have to say, nothing worse in life -- well, maybe a few thin