people and he talked at length about the suffering that this was putting on the people there jonathan winer is a former united states special envoy for libya he joins us now via skype from maryland so what's your take on what you've been hearing here from the u.n. . well mr solomon where you delivered the same messages last week it's just we're. finding the star. the u.n. security council is just for a cease fire. is it just coming into the country. to be a political issue of the current u.s. putting together to say please just tend. to our. troops. what do you say to those who've been who've been arguing that the international community may be doing more harm than good here in libya and that it is this is a conflict that needs to be settled by libyans themselves and that's what's happening right now is is simply fueling the conflict. well we've seen a dynamic in which libyans have relied on paper and straps on libya to provide the money for them political support to provide them well it's certainly happening right now on both sides it's been happening for a good long time as the u.n. panel