joining me now, jonathan zasloff. professor. i have kind of gone back and forth on this.th amendment when this question first came up, by the way, having no idea this provision was in the 14th amendment, back when i was in the senate writing debt ceiling increases, nobody ever mentioned it, and then lawrence tribe, harvard law professor came out with a piece that pushed all of us back. we thought okay, now i see what the white house is considering here. professor tribe said that using the 14th amendment that way would mean that any budget deficit, tax cut, or spending increase could be a tact on constitutional ground because each of those actions slightly increases the probability of default. reading you and reading others who have written on this, i'm now of the feeling that professor tribe went so far. give us your case what the president can do with the 14th amendment. >> the most important thing to understand is if on tuesday morning the treasury does not have enough money to pay its debts torks pay its obligations and pay appropriations that congress has already appr