jonathon gruber and obama and nancy pelosi supported this. rtha: in a front line interview, gruber talks about sitting down in the oval office. sitting there talking to the president about this. why doesn't the president spay yes, i had meetings with him and i think he's a smart man. do i agree with him? once again we hear from the president, i just heard about this. i just read this in the newspaper. people are simply not buying that any more. >> i think everybody needs to come to the table. that's why i mentioned at the top i heard governor romney demy jonathon gruber. martha: governor romney is not the president of the united states. and he did not couple with a healthcare plan for the united states. that's tbhoot we are talking about. >> no, martha, what i'm saying is romney care gave birth to aca. >> romney care is also wrong. >> it's essential to a central mandate. >> can we just agree to talk about the issue? we are here to talk about the president who said he stole yldo foal ideas from jonathon -- who stole ideas from jonathon gruber.

bill: president obama saying his administration did not mislead voters and he just heard of jonathon gruberone lawmaker calling this scandal an example of what's wrong with washington, d.c. >> gruber's comments show what's wrong in washington, d.c. this administration believes they are smarter and everyone else and they need to impose the policies and states exist only to carry out their wishes from the central government. bill: ladies, good morning to both you. katie, how do we square this? >> i'm not sure we can square this. this is rule number one in the classic obama play bikes to play dumb. now that jonathon gruber has been out times saying the american people are stupid. you know, the president is saying i just found out about this. he was never on staff. he wasn't in these negotiations when the fact is he was inside the white house meeting with president obama and was paid $2 million in taxpayer funds to do so to mislead voters. so president obama has a culture of desneption this white house that starts at the top with him. he set up this culture. jonathon gruber was simply carrying

leland: another video from the obamacare architect jonathon gruber. why he says he scammed the american people. >> it many emblematic of a nanny state government. you are too stoop i'd to know how to educate your own children or what to put in your mouth and eat. leland: a man with a knife tried to storm the gate at a naval base in connecticut. two civilian police officers were wound. one sliced in the leg by a suspect and another by a ricochet of bullets after they returned fire. no explanation of who was. officials say this was not an act of terror. the navy, state and local police investigate. martha: some new cutting-edge technology to try to protect schools from mass shooters. jonathon hunt has more on this from our newsroom. sounds like very interesting technology. >> reporter: think it as a smoke or fire alarm system. wait does is put sensors throughout the school. those sensors pick up the sound or indeed the muzzle flash of gunfire to help guide cops by sending them instant signals as to where the short is in that school or any other kind of

do you think jonathon gruber is a serious issue or just partisan noise? in our greta wire poll. don't forget, sean is the special guest at 10:00 p.m. sh -- president bush. >> tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye" just how difficult is it to find a needle in a hey stack? meet one slacker who had the tame to waste and the guts to find out. and what is wrong with the leather chaps the president got joe biden for his birthday? >> they don't fit. in washington it is not meant as a compliment. it means you are not sophisticated. >> and did lou daabs just invent skiing's next maneuver. the world's most electrifing newsman on how he pulled off the high five. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> daabs. let's welcome our other guests. we've got champagne taste on a beer budget. so she has to steal things. poor

eric: there is more fallout after jonathon gruber, the m.i.t. eelsor who says the healthcare law was. eric: there are reports that gruber may be called to testify on capitol hill to explain. his comments provided ammunition to republicans in their fight against obamacare. martha: fun turns to fear as panicked visitors call 11. get us out of -- call 911. >> we can't find a way out. >> we have been here for four hours. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. martha: so attorneys for the family of michael brown set to hold a news conference shortly. dr. michael baden testified before the grand jury today. he was

. >>> last week i >>> last week i trashed jonathon gruber for calling the american people stupid.ere's what you had to say. rick says, he has a point. there are a lot of stupid people out there. they are called democrats who voted for obama, not once but twice. and erica says, i'm not stupid. i didn't vote for him 0 or his dumb health care law. debbie says what nerve this guy has. glad you let him have it. my pleasure. charles says he spilled the beans. i thank him for thatted. good point. robin says if i remember correctly being duped isn't stupid, it is a scam built on lies. seen a few of those. donald says correction, judge. the people that a believed it are the stupid ones. we knew. and tom says i'm not stupid and i voted for our president twice and i would do it a third time. hey, tom, yes, you are. and garry says people are stupid if they listen to you. only an idiot would be against universal health care for its nachlgs hey, garry, universal health care for its nation, nation being the operative word here. it is our nation, not every other nation that can sneak in and get h

they will talk about how the statements of jonathon gruber were not just his but representative of people who drafted obamacare. bill: i expect the question will come up. how will the white house react to this? >> so far they have been silent. it's possible they could claim griesh was a tangential figure in this though he was deeply involved. gruber has a history of thinking the american people are too dumb to understand healthcare reform. in 2012 he wrote a comic book explaining healthcare reform at the comic book level. everything he said is entirely consistent with his view. bill: have you seen the illustrations? >> it's available on amazon and he explained it. bill: the left will portray this man as someone who was on the outskirts of obamacare in all likelihood. but he's m.i.t., he's massachusetts. he consulted with members of congress on how to write the built, byron. >> he also had a contract with the department of health and human services to work on obamacare. he was a paid consultant to the administration. he was a leading in the figure in the drafting of obamacare and you can't

fox news confirming one of the architects of obamacare who called americans stupid, jonathon gruber willoon be on the hill on the morning much december 9, 9:00 a.m. eastern time. gruber found himself at the center of a media firestorm after a series of videos emerged that showed him saying that a lack of trains parent i and the stupidity of americans helped get the affordable care act passed. martha: a firestorm we have been watching unfold in ferguson, missouri after the grand jury's decision not to diet the officer involved in the shooting of michael brown. here is missouri's governor jay nixon hours before the verdict was revealed. >> together we are all focused on making sure the necessary resources are at hand to protect lives, protect property, and protect free speech. martha: the governor's appeal for calm fell on deaf ears because this what is happened last night. >> this is definitely tear gas and it's being fired in all directions and it will clear the crowd. martha: dozen of businesses were looted, burned and destroyed. amid fears these violent protest.may be far from over. jo

jonathon karl that asked that question. and he's also scanning over the point that every single point that jonathan gruber brought up was onef obamacare brought up and were wondering about. is it true the cbo actually says we're going to save money? is it true that the language was so complicated, it was impossible to understand? is it true that they used lack of transparency to their advantage? yes, yes, yes, and yes. let's add some salt in the wound. let's focus on the stupidity of the american people and their inability to remember problems with the web site from a year ago. >> right. better for whom, is a question so many people are asking and feeling. so many people who are promised they could have their doctor, keep their plan and promised $2,500 that every family was going to get is certainly not the case and many of whom are democrats. there was one person, pete hegseth, who came here and said if we want to know what it's like for the government to run health care, just take a look, a close look at the v.a. so we actually sent him down to the v.a. in may of 2014. >> when it was revealed about the very long wait time