this is taken from audiotape in jonestown. the fbi collected about a thousand nokia tapes that i was able to use for the first time. and you know, i can't imagine being in that crowd that night when all of a sudden this man who you respect it, this preacher, this progressive figure and from disco politics is suddenly saying, unique to plan your death and bellowing out an old woman, calling her names. i can imagine what that would then like sitting there with your child and hearing this conversation. so again, that is what i hope people take away from it took us a better understanding of what happened in john's town and how to trap these people were. he told another tape, you know, has him saying that the people who want to leave were not going to pay your acting way home. if you want to go home, you can swim home. over and over he's telling me know what going home. wow going to be here and i together. and the thing is, i went down there in 2008 and is so isolated even today. in the 70s, people had to take a two-day boat trip u

>>henry: 913 people died in jonestown in 1978. it remains one of the most puzzling, most problematic events. jim jones remains one of the most terrifying creatures. thousands of documents came out attributed to this book. for starters, what did you learn? there has been so much written. >> what i learned was that, as you said, it was not mass suicide, it was a mass murder. among the thick the thousand pages, there were dozens of their residents, asking jones to let them go home. there were miserable. >>henry: he had contemplated this for years? the idea of mass murder? >> that is the most astonishing thing that i found out. even before they moved to jonestown, in the early '70s, he was talking with his inner circle about letting his congregants onto buses and driving them off of the golden gate bridge or loading them onto an airplane and crashed in the airplane. >>henry: you say that had you lived here in the bay area and were of the aid in the '70s, you would have been attracted to his church because he really was doing good thin