jonna spilbor joining us now. this the defamation case that amber heard is taking on from johnny depp who says in that opinion piece that she defamed him by calling him out for what he did over the course of their marriage. what do you think of what we have heard so far? >> you know, some people are calling this testimony -- i'm calling it an audition. a well rehearsed line of questioning and not less well rehearsed as the case goes along. i don't know if she is coming across as credible. i'll be honest with you. we'll see what the jury thinks about that. >> we'll get back into the $50 million defamation case. amber heard is now speaking. let's listen back. >> so i'm going to take you to the boston plane incident. we've heard about that early year may 24. can you describe for the jury what took place on may 24 relating to the plane incident? >> well, i had spoken to johnny. he is in boston, i'm in new york. i spoke to him. he had already been upset with me and accused me in like many arguments about not telling hi

arthel: so jonna this is according to cornell law school institute for looking to look at the burdenor defamation here it is number one a false statement purporting to be fact. number two publication or communication of that statement to a third person. number three, fault amounting to at least negligence and number four, damages or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement. so, is there anything, jonna about the nature of this trial that could impact defamation character cases for civilians or is celebrity just different? >> i think this case is going to have a ripple effect that could be a positive one. think about this, defamation of character is the cause of action it's not defamation of your weight isn't defamation of character. character is that intangible, invisible thing that is the essence of who we are. if you break an arm get a cast on six weeks later you're good to go. somebody damages your character, your reputation it is a lot harder to fix. that is why with johnny depp here took guts it was not easy to do. i think it will set a preced

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