let's bring in criminal defense attorney jonna spilbor.s than anything but it has been entertaining to say the least. all right. so in the end, okay, this is a defamation lawsuit, not a lawsuit to prove their was domestic violence. that seemed to be the center of every single witness's testimony. do you believe that johnny depp's lawyers were able to prove that amber heard is guilty of defamation and therefore he is innocent and do you believe there will be money exchanged? >> okay. to take your first question my grandfather used to say, julie, a thief will rob you but a liar will hang you. johnny depp's mission throughout the trial was to prove he is not an abuser because amber heard is a liar. there was example after example in this trial. my favorites are the thing that kicked this off was the picture of amber heard emerging from a courtroom with an alleged bruise on her face that allowed her to get a tro at the beginning of their divorce. we learned the bruise the next day was absent from a picture. the pictures paint a thousand words.