. >> stewart: yes, jordan had, in terms of dara, the dara valley and the area of northern jordan has basically the same sort of families. >> yes. >> stewart: like east and west germany so they have absorbed 350,000 people just in the homes this camp is just for the poorest of the poor who didn't have those hospitalities. >> well, jordan tried to avoid having camps and to its credit, like it never wanted to put people in camps. no one wants to be in a refugee camp, none of us would want to be in a refugee camp so for the first two, 300,000 people, it allowed people to come in and absorbed within the community but the communities could no longer absorb them because you have cities such as urban north of jordan, 200,000 more refugees arrived there. >> stewart: and these are workers and they want to -- people will hire them for lower and puts pressure on the economy. let me ask you, will you stick around and talk a little bit more about it? >> sure. >> stewart: i appreciate that. is there anything people can do can they donate? >> firstly, i also would like to say as i am in the states i

refugee agency's representative in jordan. we spoke with him after he met with a delegation of americans, including a member of congress and foreign assistance experts. despite a high number of refugees flooding into jordan earlier this year-- 50,000 to 70,000 per month between january and april-- the flow into the hashemite kingdom has slowed to a trickle recently. >> so we went from about 2,500 to 3,000 per night to about 1,500 to 500 to 100 to basically no one coming across the western border at the moment. >> suarez: over the summer, there were media reports that the jordanian government was not allowing new refugees in. a number of the humanitarian workers told us the military has closed the border in the western part of the country and have turned refugees back because the country can't handle the vast number it already has. they didn't want to say this on camera because they feared that it would compromise their ability to help refugees already in jordan. >> from the geography of syria, the main roads are toward the wes

>> jordan relations with syria are tense, to say the least.nd so, king abdullah, the king of jordan, has to really walk a fine line. he's an american ally. but he has said he will not let his territory be used for any strikes on syria. he welcomes refugees, but at the same time, he runs a covert weapons and training program for rebels that we have a large hand in. his role is enormously complex and dangerous. he's under pressure because the refugees have strained every institution in his country. jordanians are tired of standing in line at hospitals because they think syrians are taking up all of the beds. they are tired of having to pay so much for water because they believe that syrian refugees are wasting it. it is a very difficult situation for him. and there are some people who are arguing in congress that jordan is in danger of becoming destabilized. and they use it both pro-striking syria and anti-striking syria that we have to make sure that jordan stays stable. >> and you would know more than most of us how this movement of people des

what's life like in a refugee camp in jordan? kristen gleps pi gillespie met a woman there. >> did they bomb them today? it's been month since dallala last saw her husband. in january, she says, government forces attacked their villages in a rebel-controlled area in southwestern syria. several of their relatives, including children were killed. a short time later, she dmred it will country with her own kids. her husband stayed behind. >> translator: i came to jordan in spite of myself. i didn't want to come but my husband made me for the sake of our children so that they can stay safe. he saw his brother's children getting killed. and he told me to return. >> reporter: this is where she came, to this refugee camp, about ten miles across the border from syria in northern jordan. the camp opened om a year ago. but as the civil war back home escalated, its population has swelled. the camp has grown so large to more than 120,000 people that it actually feels like a city. the camp is today the fourth most populous place in jordan. all

i'm standing my ground for jordan his mother standing her ground for jordan. do you think that your son's skin color played a role i did at first i didn't but then when there were changes that were release from the interviews from his girl from michael dunn's girlfriend she said that he said when he drove up i hate that thug music why is my son's music considered thug music you know because you like a certain kind of music in you a different skin color or whatever you know and i keep telling people you know we're so focus here in america at least on skin color you know i tell people so ninety nine percent of your d.n.a. is the same skin color and here texture is only one percent of your d.n.a. why do we focus so much on that one percent very good question john i want to bring you into this conversation we are hearing so many similarities between this case and the case of trayvon martin i mean the area of the color of the stand that age of the boys things like that do you think that's a fair comparison to make you know they both have similar elements and they'r

>> well, we are witnessing a decrease in the number of arrival of refugees in jordan.ime, it's difficult to know what are the reasons behind that. what is really important for us is that well basically, people should cross the border for medical considerations. this is really important for us, when it comes to the wounded women and children. >> could the numbers be going down because there are obstacles being put there by the government, including the jordanian government? >> it's pretty difficult to say what are the main reasons. it's a congestion of factors that are leading to the internal and external, that i wouldn't be ail to confirm. >> what's the biggest challenge, do you think is facing you and other aid agencies working with refugees in the camps right now, especially in jordan? >> the needs are massive. you are talking about more than 500 those people that came in jordan over the past year or more. it's basically a massive number of people that we need to cover the needs. we are talking about basically the people inside the camp, but as well, the people outsi

i am standing up for jordan. i am standing my ground for jordan.is mother is standing her ground for jordan. >> do you think your son's skin color played a role? >> at first i did not. but then, when there were tapes that were released from the interviews from michael dunn's girlfriend -- he said when he drove up he said "i hate that thug music." why is his music considered thug music? i keep telling people, we are so focused here in america at least on skin color. 99% of your dna is the same. skin color and hair texture is only one percent of your dna. why do we focus so much on that 1%? >> a good question. i want to bring you into the conversation. we are hearing so many similarities between this case and the case of trayvon martin. the area, color of the skin, age of the boys. you think it is a fair comparison to make? >> they both have similar elements. both george zimmerman and adam dunn were empowered by the standard brown law, and are trying to use it as a get out of jail free car. -- card. that said, there were some encounters between trayv

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more than a half million crossed jordan alone be, and now jordan is opening a new camp.e have this report. >> reporter: this is where jordan's second refugee camp for syrians is being built. it is east of the capital aman near jordan's river with saudi arabia. construction began in april when the government realized that syrian refugees were going to keep coming. jordan already has a largest refugee camp for syrians in the region and second largest in the world. but this new facility is going to be even bigger. eventually able to house 130,000 people. >> any influx that will come in right now, immediately we have room which will absorb 20,000 up front. we can go up to 20,000 plus to be absorbed on a contingency basis. >> reporter: this area is a vast desert of volcanic rock with a severe climate. but aid agencies working here are trying to do things differently after lessons learned from running the other camps. >> we're working on smaller sanitation units to serve less people and there is more ownership and less vandalism. we have you wants of 16,000 people but at the e

she just returned from a syrian refugee camp in jordan.e sought refuge in these camps and nearly 1 million are children. the u.n. has called the conflict in syria the worst humanitarian crisis in 20 years. ann, great to see you again. >> great to see you, david. >> the story of that last image, that little boy in that refugee camp, his story got to you. >> his name is abraham, 10 years old, born with a birth defect. his mother said he was robust and walking, healthy, happy before the war. now having seen his father killed and now in that refugee camp in jordan, he's lost nearly a fourth of his body weight, david. he's not walking. he can barely eat because the water is so bad. kids are complaining about their stomachs hurting and not being able to eat. he is one of a million children who are refugees from this war, and they are the majority of this war. in fact, the true face of the syrian war refugee is not only a child, it's a child under the age of 11. >> so what happens to them? because things are not -- they're going to get worse befo

the characteristics of security that jordan is the asset for jordan, -- >> what is your premonition,'t going to get worse before it gets better? >> for the syrian women in refugee camps, i also have to point out as a lawyer, because jordan is not a signatory to the gym -- geneva convention, the issue is dealt with other agencies through a memorandum of understanding with the jordanian government. what happens is the responsibility of the u.n. agencies, not the jordanian government. however the jordanian government assumed responsibility of taking people from the boundaries, ringing them into that camp and also establishing police stations and family protections centers within the camp. there is also the issue that the conflict between what is applicable according to jordanian law and according to syrian law. one example of that is marriage. if you look at jordanians, although the age of marriage is 18, exceptions are allowed from the age of 15. however, this syrian community allows 13 and 14 year old marriages. in our law, this contract of marriage is considered null and void. and so

james larry jordan, oliver : (off cam) "ooo they're taking the tree, too." more than a dozen nearby vacant homes will be demolished within the month. pastor marshall prentice, zion baptist: "it feels great. power in your hands... i can only praise god, 'cause you can imagine the hand of god knocking down old things, and rebuilding new." city leaders tell me the seven houses on the north side of lansing street... along with vacant homes on nearby bethel street... will soon be demolished within the month. it's up to community leaders to work with the city on what they want to see replace these structures. paul gessler, fox45 news at ten. a follow up tonight to a story you saw first on fox... about the police department stripping stop and frisk from its policies and documents. the police commissioner wants the words replaced with investigative stops. but it was the timing of the commissioners memorandum a civil liberities organization questioned. the memorandum coincided with a freedom of information request the aclu submitted on the use of stop and frisk. 17:1

jordan's close ties will be put to the test. they publicly maintained his new talent he -- maintain their neutrality. they don't want to be complicit in any move that hits the government of damascus. how concerned are people in the streets? >> they are no strangers to taking in refugees and opened their borders to the palestinians and the iraqis. many people here are now concerned that unrest can spread all across the middle east. >> jordanians are united. >> you need more help from the outside world? >> of course. >> jordan has remained relatively untouched over the past 20 years. it is going to be a far greater test. >> another conflict involving a taiwanese fishermen as a boat strays into disputed waters. it comes to hosting the olympic games. >> a fisherman from taiwan is accusing the philippine coast guard of abusing him after what filipinos claim is illegal border cross-border fishing. the fisherman said the crew pointed a gun at his head and forced him to kneel down on the ground for four hours during his detention. he wa

nine months pregnant, and gave birth just as she arrived in jordan. so it's these kind of stories that we hear day after day, that we really try to get out there to the world. so that people understand that while the numbers are huge, behind the 2 million figure there are 2 million stories. and each person is having their lives destroyed by this crisis. >> thank you very much, it's really good to speak to you. with world vision. >> thank you. >> the japanese government is spend $470 million to deal with the fukushima nuclear disaster. now hones of tons of water have been leaking into the sea daily since that plant was hit. the government says it will build shielding walls to stop the leaks. >> in c official news agent that reports that it was at the center of the corruption investigation, he used to be the chairman of china's biggest oil company. four top executives from that company are already under investigation. harry faucet has more from beijing. >> we only know that je ginning is accused of serious reaches of party discipline, we don't have any

let's move on to jordan, the king hoo sane had an obsession with cars. showcasing his collection is the most visited in the country and we explain why it's now being seen as a window into jordan's history. >> reporter: some of the rarest cars in the world are found in the capitol in jordan and the late private collection at the royal automobile museum. here you can see vehicles as old as this 1916 cadillac given to king hussian in the 80s and this car was the first to enter the country, this 1952 convertible was first used by the royal palace in england before it was brought for the core -- coronation when he was 18 and this with the god-winged doors was his favorite. >> this is one of the most important historic cars in the world from a sporting perspective and jordan from a historic perspective, not only is it a very unique and very desirable sports car right now worldwide but also it can -- he started racing hill climbs in it in 1955 with his friend. >> reporter: he survived two assassinations and he called it the blessed one and drove the 1952 ashton

i've seen the refugees suffering in jordan.i worked actually with humanitarian relief organizations helping them, but the magnitude of the crisis is beyond imagination. >> amer, that's so difficult. you continue to look for your brothers as well. >> i have two brothers detained by the assad regime for more than a year now, and we don't know where my brothers are at. they just invaded our family's house. they took my brothers, and we don't know where they're at and what happened to them. we don't have access to any lawyers or anybody who can help us determine where my brother's at. >> out here in the audience is carly from new jersey joining us. you have a question. >> yeah. there's so many civilians in this crisis in syria. how much is obama taking these people into consideration as he plans to confiscate these chemical weapons? >> there was some discussion in the previous panel about who won, whether it's putin or obama or assad. i think all of us, especially in the military community, believe that the losers are the syrian pe

jason jordan, an attorney, and bill jordan's son, speaks out. >> he's not just some small-time guy whoing people off at cherry creek mall. he's willing to have somebody murdered, for crying out loud. >> the denver d.a.'s office charges smith again, with one count of attempted murder. those charges are dropped by prosecutors, however, when smith agrees to a plea deal and pleads guilty to aggravated robbery, second degree assault, robbery and theft. he's sentenced to 25 years in prison. despite the outcome, jason jordan says his dad's life has never been the same since that day he bought an ipad. >> it's like their whole world's been turned upsidedown. all of it is so messed up from beginning to end, it's just crazy. >>> coming up, a couple's surveillance videocamera solves a strange mystery and reveals a cruel truth. >> it took one minute. >>> plus, a donkey goes up, up and away. a publicity stunt gone awry. >> kids were crying because the donkey, she was crying as well. >> when "caught on camera: bold, brazen and bizarre" continues. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two b

he's played well. >> gus: jordan hall again. i didn't care hardy nickerson brings him down. >> charles: all right. the duplicate numbers thing, i mean, and it played into tonight's game, didn't it. >> referee: personal foul, tripping, on the offense, number 78. 15-yard penalty. still first down. >> charles: i'm talking about jared goff wears 16 and the penalty there gets number 78 op offense. that is the big fella, andrew norwell, all big ten guard. but tonight jared goff wearing 16, the punter, cole leininger, wears 16. and cal got tricked on a punting situation and he threw a pass for a first down. something doesn't seem right about that. i'm sorry. >> gus: it's difficult for announcers. but it is legal football. it's legal football. let's take a look at the ohio state schedule. play bam-u next week, then wisconsin, northwestern, a bye, iowa, penn state. >> charles: from what we've seen here today, many people in the preseason targeted this ohio state team as one of the top teams potentially to take on whoever that s.e.c. repr

diplomat, william jordan. by the way, the crackdown suddenly getting the attention of the international community with the death of a french resident in police custody. he was picked up for breaking the nighttime curfew. authorities say he was killed by a cellmate. hollywood stars also among the 130,000 to sign online petitions for john grayson, who has been on hunger strike. he was trying to enter the gaza strip last month. the border crossing has been partially reopened since yesterday, but only partially. that had been well shot after the ouster of mohamed morsi by the army backed authorities. at this point, we were talking a moment ago about sinai and about the situation at the border with -- and you can see those images of the crossing from wednesday. again, you get a sense when you look at this that we are back -- is as if time has rolled back to where it was before. >> i think, sure. military rulers in cairo want to make sure sinai stays as calm as possible, especially given that gaza is such a flashpoi

now jordan's government is opening a new camp. we report from the town of the new camp. >> translator: this is where jordan's second refugee camp for syrians is being built. it's in azraq east of the capital near jordan's border with saudi arabia. construction began in april when the government realized that syrian refugees were going to keep coming. jordan already has the largest refugee camp for syrians in the region and the second largest in the world. this new facility is even bigger, eventually able to house 130,000 people. >> any influx that comes in right now, immediately we have room in the camp, which can straightaway absorb 20,000 up front. azraq as it is, we can go up to 20,000 plus to be absorbed >> reporter: this is a vast desert of volcanic rock with a severe climate. >> we're working on smaller water and sanitation units to serve less people and there's more ownership and less validism. we have units for about 16,000 people, but they can be available for 50,000 people as of today. >> reporter: aid agencies hope to g

we have this report from jordan. >> translator: this is where jordan's second refugee camp for syrian is being built east of the capital of amman near the border with saudi arabia. construction began in april when the government realized syrian refugees were going to keep coming. jordan always has the largest refugee camp for syrians in the reson and the second largest in the world. this new facility is going to be even bigger. eventually it will be able to house 130,000 people. >> any influx that comes in right now immediately we have room in the camp, which can straightaway absorb 20,000 up front. we can go up to 20,000-plus as it is to be absorbed on eye contingency basis. >> this area is a vast desert of volcanic rock with a severe climate. they're trying to do things differently from lessons learned. >> we have smaller units to serve more people and there is more ownership and less vandalism. we have already units for about 16,000 people, but at the emergency rate they can be available for 50,000 people as of today. >> reporter: aid agencies hope to get this camp up and running w

refugees left in the first five months of this year alone and over 1100 -- 111,000 fled to egypt and jordanin more than than and three quarters have gone to lebanon and we will speak about it in a mfl and half a million in turkey and lisa is there for us and in iraq more than 170,000. and we are on the border and joins us now. so you have seen numbers there increase substantially in the time you have been there. what is expected to be the impact of more talk of military strikes? >> well the impact of military action will mean there are more refugees crossing the border and coming to camps like this and let me show you here. when i arrived here two weeks ago the camp was a third full and you see it stretches across the hill there. and let me give you some figures, 52000 people have arrived in the last couple of weeks and i've been speaking to a few of those and what i'm getting is a sense of anger, disappointment and because this is what they face and confusion as who that any military strike will mean and they hope the strike will be decisive and will topple over al assad and disappointed t

if you look at the refugee question in jordan, it is destabilizing to jordan. more or less likely that there will be more refugees if we bomb assad. i think there will be more. more or less likely that turkey gets attacked crun. i think it's more likely. crunch the ayatollah in iran says all this bluster about me not getting nuclear weapons, for us, in that region, to let turkey and saudi arabia and others say if iran has nuclear weapon, we need to have num clear weapons too. >> this is an argument for why the president shouldn't be willy-nilly be drawing red lines. the more red lines you draw -- the president has lost face. he's lost credibility. but the united states has a great and ferocious ability to defend ourselves. i don't think there is all of a sudden american credibility going out the window. the president's credibility's on the line, but the -- >> the red line was an international red line. it's not just that we said. >> and you said you were for the creme cal weapons band ban treaty. >> in addition, i think that when we talk about iran, that is a n

he's joining us live from amman, jordan. the u.n. is working nonstop, but there's not enough money to go around, as we heard in that report. >> that's correct. we face enormous challenging in the region. many parties want to be prepared to help the warring factions inside syria, but we're not seeing the same eagerness to address the address massive humanitarian needs. we have 2 million people, refugees outside of syria. we have many millions of people inside syria experiencing the brunt of the war firsthand. there has to be much more done to help these people, and now we have to winterize the refugee camps for their third winter and then build facilities that may endure for years to come. >> peter, when you say winterize the refugee camps, what exactly does that entail? i guess, is that what you're going to ask the ministers from jord t jordan and lebanon and turkey you're meeting with tomorrow, is that what you're going to ask for resources for? >> reporter: well, the geneva talks are about several issues. we want to thank the gover

jordan will be at greater risk. the longer that this conflict goes on and particularly with assad's ability to use chemical weapons, the more you will see the humanitarian crisis grow. we are already the largest contributor, thanks to the generosity of the american people and the willingness of congress to move. we're already the largest contributory refugee camps and the borders. many of you have been to them. you want to see them grow? you want to see jordan, which is already fragile? of course, not, senator. >> many of you have met with the king. you know king abdullah's judgment he's at risk because of what is happening. so i believe the best way to reduce the threat is by acting. >> i don't disagree with anything you've said. but let's take that and try to expand on that. we need the credibility. there is no question about it. but are we really going to be giving them credibility if we go in with a limited strike and the day after or the week after or the month after assad crawls ot of his rat hole and says loo

jordan will be at greater risk. the longer this conflict goes on, and particularly with assad's ability to use chemical weapons, the more you will see the humanitarian crisis grow. we are already the largest contributor thanks to the generosity of the american people and the willingness of congress to move. we're already the largest contributor to refugee camps in the borders. many of you have been to them. you want to see them grow? see jordan, which is already fragile -- >> of course not -- >> any of you met with the king you know his judgment is that he is at risk because of what is happening. so i believe the best way to curb that and reduce the threat is by acting. >> and i don't disagree with anything you said, but let's take that and try to expand on that. we need the credibility. there is no question about it. but are we really going to be giving them credibility if we go in with a limited strike, and the day after or the week after or the month after assad crawls out of his rathole and says, i stood up to t

>> well, senator, first jordan, you know we have patriot missile in defense batteries in jordan. and we also are working very closely with the israelis. you know they have a very sophisticated iron dome and missile defense system there. we are in constant coordination with all of the allies in the region. and as you may know, general dempsey was just in jordan for a commander's meeting which included all the senior military from the neighboring countries and our partners. so we are closely connected with and assisting our allies on this and other issues. >> thank you. last question, secretary kerry, if i might. i am interested in our having a followon conversation about how this specific strike and this be side effect authorization that you're seeking can also lead to a broader strategy, a strategy for support and engagement with the opposition that will lead to the diplomatic resolution of the syrian civil war that you've spoken about repeatedly. i don't think these are mutually exclusive. i do think it's possible for us to take action that reinforces a global red line against c

that cap in jordan is one of the biggest cities that there is in that country. we have well-funded embassies, well-funded to put medic networks, very close relations with lebanon and jordan, and also close relationship with the turks as well. we have done everything we can to help and advise. we are well placed. at the end of the day, what we need is a solution to the syrian crisis. we need to the visa process to be put in place. we also need to make sure we are absolutely clear about our revulsion of chemical weapons. we should be making sure that our aid program is also helping give syrian people protection from the weapons attacks of they the revulsion >> against chemical weapons is shared on all sides of this house. talk going between the warring parties. the opposition is meeting the foreign secretary in the next couple of days. can the prime minister tell us what work he is doing with them, with the syrian national council to make these talks in geneva happen? >> what we're doing with the council is twofold. we want to support those elements of the syrian

assistance in jordan and turkey and take measures to protect jordan, israel and turkey from the spilloverthat region, the country syria is between. jordan for example, between syria and egypt, both bat casey anthonies. lou: -- basket cases. lou: further complicating it. general jack king pointed out in gegeographical terms the east, west, and northwest of the country is controlled by extremists as is much of the eastern part of syria, and in between our so-called quote, unquote, moderate elements of the opposition. all sitting well above damascus. this is a maddening feature for military that has to carry out strikes, this is going to be very difficult by any measure circumstance it not? >> it is. , again it has to be the to find targets with objectives that have affects that support our strategy, support the united states and its allies, humanitarian assistance, while positions forces tied to jordan, israel, and turkey are what is key. not just striking for revenge, or because of a statement made preof previously, it is too late to enforce. so it is not limited strikes are not going to t

>> well, senator, first, jordan, you know we have patriot missile defense batteries in jordan. we also are working very closely with the israelis. they have a very sophisticated missile defense system. we are in constant communication with all the allies in the region. and as you may know, general dempsey was just in jordan for a commander's meeting, which included all the senior military from the neighboring countries and our partners so we are closely connected with and assisting our allies on this and other issues. >> thank you. last question, secretary kerry, if i might. i am interested in our having a follow-on conversation about how this specific strike and this specific authorization that you're seeking can also lead to a broader strategy, a strategy for support and engagement with the opposition that will lead to the diplomatic resolution of the syrian civil war that you've spoken about repeatedly. i don't think these are mutually exclusive. i do think it's possible for us to take action that reinforces a global red line against chemical weapons use, but to still contin

i'm darren jordan in doha. diswrail primisraeli prime minin netanyahu prepares to meet with president obama. >>> i'll be showing you what's happening in side the national game park in zimbabwe. >> welcome to the program. it's what australian politicians believe biggest challenge in their country. in search for a better life. the numbers are getting higher. but they can't cope. tony abbott is meeting days after 28 people have died after a boat carrying asylum seekers sank o off indonesia. >>> here is what that boat carrying 80 people sank just days ago. off the southern coast of java. and it was just one of the many oh of in the past year alone, have arrived in australia, since late 2007 over 45,000 people have landed on australia's shores. the controversial program, off the thstopthe boats. >>> what more can you tell us? >> there are a group of around 20 survivors of last friday's both accident. they are kept in this hotel in west java and basically being questioned by police and immigration officials because t

i will let jordan speak as well. >> good evening, my name is jordan, manager at part of it is we don't have a way for our neighbors to reach us and that is not true. every neighbor has my number and i have tried to work out situations that they are having concerns with to make it as to more livable and comfortable situation for all of us. some of our neighbors are had are tonight and we have six writers that live directly in the building in support of what we would like to do. i made 11 copies. are we allowed to give those out at this point? >> anyone like to see the letters? okay. >> excuse me, are these the same ones that are provided? they are the same thing. >> it's basically folks in support of our cause. now, one of the things that the appellant, we didn't write them. it's not a form. one of the things that the appellants, one of the points that the appellants tried to make was that, for example, in their brief, was that the hair salon across the street was actually opposed and didn't appreciate our presence in the neighborhood. we have a letter from the owner in this latest pack