white house correspondent for the hill, jordan fabian. rdan what impact do all of these various versions of the truth have on the administration, specifically inside the white house, the morale of people working inside of the white house? >> well, another day, another misleading statement, yasmin. but it's having real world consequences. inside the white house there's been consternation among aides that some of the official explanations they put out on things later undercut by either the president or his top advisers. it's having impact outside of the white house, anything to the dea, we not the commandant of the coast guard saying he would stand for his members. and you have a top official at the epa resigning over the administration's climate policy. so what we're seeing now is different branches of the administration pushing back against this president's directives and this president's ideas and thoughts and policies. and it's really a challenge do his credibility. >> yeah, certainly some fallout there. i wanted to switch gears talking

let's bring in jordan fabiÁn, white house correspondent for the hill, jordan.as we await for the new conference to begin, tell me, if you will, how all of this might impact, well, first let's talk about the boston protest today and what you saw and your response. i'm sorry, it looks like we are having the news conference, jordan, we will break into that and then come back to you later. >> i think it's important that today in our city there's been a lot of work done to be able to come in and to be able to protest, able to express themselves all the way from roxbury community college all the way to boston common, you could feel a sense of pride being there that people were going to come out and make a statement about how great we are in the city of boston. so i want to thank all of the people that came out today, i want to thank all the people that came to share that message of love, not hate, to fight back on racism, to fight back on antisemitism and to white back on white supremacist that is were -- nazis that were coming to our city. i want to thank everybody

joining us now white house correspondent for "the hill" jordan fabian. as you saw there, a lot to unpack from this interview. from the korean comments in particular, they would seem to undermine what the white house and the pentagon have publically said in terms of the military strategy for the korean peninsula. no? >> that's right. when the president threatens to reign fire and fury down on the north koreans, what he is trying to do is deter them from this nuclear build-up. when you have a senior aide directly contradicting any kind of threat the united states actually might carry out, that really undermines the deterence. the administration has already been struggling with mixed messages on north korea, and this just makes the problem worse. >> there's a section where bannon airs some grievances that are very specific pointing out people in the state department talking about how he wants to eliminate them, replace them. also talking about sort of infighting with people in the inner circle of the administration. take us through some of those names that

. >> jon: joining us now, philip wakeman and jordan fabian. jordan, the president has denied that this is a white house in chaos with the departure of anthony scaramucci and the arrival of general kelly is chief of staff, does he have that right? >> there's no question there's been terminus of people here at the white house with all of those departures, having a communications director only last ten days. the mandate that john kelly has is to try and bring some order to this building. there are a lot of rival factions here who aren't necessarily on the same page, have different agendas. his number one goal is to try and get everyone on the same page, reporting to him and remains to be seen if he can do that. yesterday was a good sign with scaramucci's out, but there are more challenges ahead. >> jon: what did scaramucci do wrong? he must've messed up royally to be on the job ten days and then get shoved aside. >> anthony scaramucci always wanted to be a wise guy, but eventually wise guys get whacked and this really does provide a textbook examp

. >> jon: jordan fabian, white house correspondent for the hill and philip wakeman. gentlemen, welcome to both of you. jordan, just one week off this -- just when i thought this electroweak can get any more electric, this interview comes. he said it was off the record, due by that? >> i don't, this is a guy who's in his 60s, he's a senior advisor in the white house. this is someone who talks to reporters all the time, so he's got to know the ground rules when he speaking to reporters. it's interesting to see his efforts to rationalize this by saying it was going to change the narrative and get the heat off trump, he never intended it to be on the record. i don't see how that would be the case. all these explanations aren't really adding up. >> jon: philip, same question to you. a guy named anthony scaramucci gave an interview that he thought was off the record, or so he says, and it got him canned, do we really believe that steve bannon didn't think his words were going to be published? >> i'm with jordan on this one. steve bannon is too smart to go full scare motive.

back to my take, editorial at top of the hour, jordan fabian with us, white house correspondent for the is perception that the white house is in turmoil, some go further than that to suggest this presidency is spiraling out of control. strong stuff. very strong words. what is your take on it? >> well, stuart, there is something to it. look, the president brought in his new chief of staff, john kelly to right the ship at white house. in some respects he succeeded, but the one main area he hasn't succeeded is reining in president trump's behavior. we see the president tweeting as much as ever. stirring the pot with this debate over confederate statues and violence in charlottesville. taking potshots at republicans in congress that he is going to need to pass his agenda. it doesn't seem like new chief of staff or process has done anything to rein that in. until that is fixed we'll have a problem. stuart: jordan, i will roll that sound bite again from, from senator bob corker in which he questions the stability of the president. roll tape. >> the president has not yet, has not yet been able

jordan fabian, thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you.ails show reporters at "the washington post" and "the new york times" weren't exactly interested in covering that infamous tarmac meeting between former attorney general loretta lynch and president bill clinton. joining us now is a media reporter at the hill. this is interesting, because when this story broke, joe, it showed in parts at least some of the e-mails that were released that both "the washington post" and the times were essentially trying to push this story aside, bury it, if you like. >> yes. one reporter said, and i quote, he was being pressed into service. ashley: he didn't want to do it. >> exactly. a story like that with an attorney general who's investigating the spouse of a former president -- ashley: big story. >> that's a huge story, and it wasn't on anybody's schedule. this was only discovered because a local reporter found out that they were meeting. then afterwards when it is discovered that the meeting happened, they're talking about golf and grandkids -- [laugh