and then you would find, like, some of our white correspondents, like jordan klepper, he would go and's not agreeing with these people but they have a chumminess with him where they can almost say whatever they want to say, you know, and there's an element of going, like, ah, i look like you so maybe i think like you. so it's funny you say the thing of the joe rogan because i go, i don't know, it's one of those instances where you go do you put a hand out to a person and hope that they don't, like, chop it off, or do you stay safe and put your hand in the pocket and say, no, it's just safer to label you this as a human being. so i understand your conflict and the dilemmas you're in, because you're trying to be a person with a soul and spirit and go, joe rogan, i'm glad you acknowledge these things because people who follow you will go, okay, i guess it's okay not to say this word and i'm glad you've acknowledged that, and calling black people racist is not the same thing. but people are going, can you and should you accept that? i think the conversation society is having as a whole is