jordan releford, entrepreneur and crypto experts, but you may know him better as the wolf of wall streeto is basically just centralized money. it can also be used buy things, but there's all these other coins, and they are derivatives. there's so much going on right now. [laughter] there is a separate bitcoin, so much other stuff right now that's killing the market, but i think bitcoin -- i am a buyer. >> jesse: so you say buy bitcoin. the wolf of wall street says buy bitcoin. up close to 60, now what is it down to? >> about 31,000. >> lost about half of its value, and the wolf says buy bitcoin. >> for the long term. it's too volatile to make money in the short term unless you are a professional trader. >> people are getting rocks, looking at the 401(k)s. should people stay calm, or is this going to get worse? >> here are the consequences. it starts with energy policy, which creates a cycle of inflation. really been a poorly managed part of the administration if inflation persists, and the young kids -- i hope we are not going back to 22%, ben may the pressure on the market, might lower