. >> jordan smith, thank you. >> thank you. and now you're watching american history tv. every weekend, beginning saturday at 8 a.m. eastern, we bring you 48 hours of unique programming exploring our nation's past. american history tv is only on c-span3. >> next on american history tv, the discussion on policymaking commissions inl american history. this talk from purdue university was part of the conference called making american history. i am the associate professor of instructions, a legal historian who has written about presidential commissions and administrative law from -- law reform. we look forward to you can tell, today's session is being filmed by c-span, so do with that information as you will. frank will be first. >> yes, my name is frank popper. i teach city planning. increasingly i take an historical approach to city planning. i do that with rutgers. the reason i am here, nearly half a century ago i wrote a small book for the 20th entry fund, now the century foundation in new york city, on presidential commissions and it's one of the very few sources, i thin