top stars in the golf, for example, jordan speelt spieth is not at nike. >> we would rather have him than not have him. but we have never, ever had everybody. or all the good ones in any sports. so we're used to that. >> rose: used to that. >> uh-huh. no, i was the one-- . >> rose: you're not used tho that. >> well, no, i said magic johnson will never make it to the nba because he is a plair without a position, how good is that. >> rose: and also a guy with a magnetic personality. >> absolutely. >> rose: still does. >> we own con verse now but we didn't when they signed magic johnson but they did a terrible job of promoting him. he could have been michael jordan. >> rose: in-terms of endorsement. >> yeah. >> rose: and he wasn't because shall did. >> i just think his sneaker endorsement never promoted him properly. >> rose: i bet he knows that. >> can you remember a con verse ad for magic johnson? >> rose: no, but i tell you what, i mean the interesting thing about magic, first of all, he's a great entrepreneur. >> absolutely. and so is michael in a different way. >> uh-huh. but magic