the trial, everybody said, this 13-year-old accuser is in it for the money. >> right. >> unlike jordi chandler, the previous child, he never filed a civil suit before, during, and now even years afterwards. he has never asked for one time. and that was proven to be completely false. >> all right. let's -- >> you know something, jane, wait a minute. >> okay, let me move on. there's so much to cover here. the jackson case, as we all know, we were there, a circus often turning a serious child molestation case into what felt like a las vegas act with jackson as the ringmaster. i'm sure you remember jackson hopping on the roof of his suv, we're going to see it over and over today. playing to the crowd. looking for all the world like he was on stage at madison square garden. there he is. i was there at that moment. it was crazy. that was -- >> do you remember that, jane? that was on arraignment day when you're very seriously going into court to hear the charges against you and that's what he did. >> absolutely. and not to be outdone, his own family got in on the theatrics. i'm sure you remember this