europe was former president jose mohican is one of those credited with reducing the gap between rich and poor during his 5 years in office he was president until 2015 and invested heavily in health education and social welfare now 85 years old he agreed to give us an interview at his home but if. a certain level of prosperity allowed us to develop a social democracy. that has shaped the entire country. not only structurally and materially but also in terms of our way of life. we are now a country known for its tolerance where people are very civilised in their dealings with each other but also when there are differences of opinion or economic crises are going to only go. back to the family they have been enjoying meeting regularly with relatives and friends again. so what do they think is the secret of europe was relative success in the crisis so far. apart from good political decisions they think the country just got lucky to a certain extent. perhaps it's a different mutation of the virus that we have here that means the cases aren't as bad as in europe and. perhaps it's the climat