>> second that. >> second from commissioner josefowitz. can i hear all of those in favor of continuing the item to our next meeting, please say aye. >> aye.

. >> colleagues you will remember that we met our two newest colleagues, josefowitz and wan. and i remember when i was new to the commission and wanting to get to know everybody quickly and wanting the folks to get to know me and not having that chance last time, this was just a brief item just to meet our newest commissioners and when we have our retreat we will learn more about each other. but if we could just learn quickly a little bit about josefowitz, and welcome to the commission. and then commissioner wan. >> thank you, so much. >> president, arce. >> and i am thrilled to be here and the background and i have developed and built the solar power plants and some of the expertise that i hope to bring to the commission and to the department and to the city. i think that we have tremendous assets, as a city, that we earn ourself and within the city that can be exploited to greener, energy supply and to reduce our electricity and fuel usage and i hope to bring some of my expertise and add to these important issues. >> thank you. >> thank you president, arce. >> and i will be

commissioner josefowitz was -- what was your vote, commissioner josefowitz? >> yes. >> aye, okay. commissioner wald was no. so, that's -- commissioner wan was aye. it doesn't pass. >> see you next week, vice president courtney. if we can call the next item before doing that. if we can, we've kept a lot of folks. can we make our presentation to our labor folks? we have to stay here very briefly. >> i've got to go. [multiple voices] >> if we come at 4:00, we can have a quorum. >> [speaker not understood]. i don't know how many people you would have. i would like to say now that we've decided there is something we're going to deliver, because we said we're to do make change in this community that i using the community. citizen engagement is the key and he want to thank the greatest mayor in the world mayor lee. (clapping) >> not even election time. anyway thank you all for being here. when i first landed in san francisco i i know it's a similar story for you i thought about where i was golden going and i understood its name origin as he city of st. francis. i think that means you com

>> second that. >> second from commissioner josefowitz. can i hear all of those in favor of continuing the item to our next meeting, please say aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> item is continued. >> policy committee report. >> commissioner wald? >> on august 12th... >> i am sorry. could i get what is the move to make? i did not take public comment on that item. >> i know that we have watch dogs in the audience and i don't want to make that mistake. >> deputy city? >> you can recind the vote. >> could i get a motion to recind. >> all those in aye. >> item 12, public comment on item 12? >> could i get a motion to continue this item to the next meeting. >> move to continue. >> all of those in favor, a aye. >> item 13, policy committee report. >> thank you. >> and at our august 12th, i first have to correct what i said before, we actually talked about the agenda at the staff retreat at our july 8th meeting not our august 12th meeting and at the august 12th meeting we had lively discussions for information and the discussions sessions that were addresse

commissioner josefowitz. >> i was wondering why -- what's different about sonoma that it got 11 people bidding on its program. >> we think what's different is that the market's changed in the last three or four years so that there are more accredited potential providers. i think that's what we assume. >> all right. if you want to continue, and we were just finishing the draft outline on the in-city. except we have a question from commissioner juan. >> it might be a very naive question. so, the reason why the staff will propose the increase to the rec is to reduce the customer rate, is that the only reason even though it doesn't follow the regional goal of the green strategy? ~ >> no, in my view it's completely consistent with the goal of the green strategy. you'll have to decide for yourself, but i don't believe there's a big difference between bucket 2 and bucket 3 which ed randolph will explain to you, in terms of recognizing renewable energy projects and [speaker not understood] investment. but there is a very big difference between the price of those two products. but the californi

. >> just to follow up on the exchange, you and commissioner josefowitz were having, do we publish these figures any place on like on our website and in a location that even a moderately able computer able individual could find? we submit an annual report, and it is sfenvironment.org, and it is there, i believe.

. >> just to follow up on the exchange, you and commissioner josefowitz were having, do we publish these figures any place on like on our website and in a location that even a moderately able computer able individual could find? we submit an annual report, and it is sfenvironment.org, and it is there, i believe. >> i would like to encourage us to think about other sort of easier ways that we can make the remarkable success of this program and other programs at the department more easily known residents of the city. so they know what value they are getting from the great work that you all do. but in other words, did not have the packet from the annual report. but you know, maybe then the rolling thingy on the face of the website that said, did you know last year, we... >> director? >> great idea, commissioners and one of the things that we have been talking about is having a sustainable metrics dashboard where it is not buried on the website but right on the front so that is a great idea and we would love the support from the commissioners that could make that happen but it is partly tech

commissioner josefowitz? >> to approve the resolution. >> the motion is approved. >> second. >> seconded by commissioner stephenson. all of those in favor, say aye. >> aye. >> motion passes, aye. and approved. thank you, look forward to working with you. >> next item is update proposed agenda for the bay view commission meeting and proposal for the future commission meeting plan in the community, and continued from the august 6, meeting and commissioner arce, speaker is donald oliveira and the public out reach program manage and her this is an informational report and discussion item. >> thank you and actually maybe i can turn it over to commissioner king. >> no. this is our plan that was continued from the last item, bless you commissioner wan. >> that have the conversation about what could be our first community meeting. >> and i want to once again really thank donny. for taking the initiative about this and he has a multitude of other things to do and responsible for and i can't over state how appreciative

thanks very much. >> commissioner josefowitz. >> thanks very much, that was interesting. i just had a few questions. and the first one was how can we be more help as a commission, more helpful to you in your work as you sort of take san francisco's position up to sacramento or to washington on environmental issues? >> certainly. i think that one of the best, most clear ways that the commission can is by resolutions of policy and policy statements. and those clear directions about what it is you'd like to see and see done. provide clear direction to the staff, but also to me in understanding what exactly your priorities are. so, really encourage the commission to do -- you already do that's correct but to continue to do that. it's very helpful. >> and is there any way that we can be helpful personally in sacramento, sort of going up and sort of, you know, i don't know, sort of advocating ourselves on behalf of any of the legislation we consider in committee, is that something we kind of toyed with a few times as how we can maybe be a bit more proactive about that. we obvio

i'd love to hear from the public. >> can we hear, commissioner josefowitz? >> i can talk after the public. >> sure, absolutely. >> awesome question, though. >> mr. freed from lafco, if you can give us some thoughts, and we're going to go straight to public comment. we have to. >> jason freed, laugh key staff. you're aware lafco is a local agency commission. it's chaired by john avalos, vice-chaired by david campos, supervisor breed and supervisor mar also serve on this commission as well as members of the public from [speaker not understood] and lee pimentel. the board of supervisors gave us [speaker not understood] to help the puc figure out how to get this program up and running many years ago actually before the current members or lafco, that's how long lafco has been working on this particular project. so, i wanted to address a few of the things [speaker not understood] how things have changed. one of things to keep in mind that has changed in this program, when the board approved this program in september of last year, it was 5% bucket 1. we're now talk

. >> commissioner josefowitz. >> it is an interesting presentation. i was wondering how you measured or whether you measured how much was... or how many goods were exchanged by departments through the sort of free market place and i am not sure how you described it. >> yes. i am sorry, i don't remember the number right now. we actually measure, she does not want to be called on right now. so i (inaudible) is here who machines manages the warehouse. but the dollars saved, and we saved over a million dollars and we did this in our own office and we were able to donate almost everything that we did not need when we moved. and items donated to us that we needed. >> commission wald. >> just to follow up on the exchange, you and commissioner josefowitz were having, do we publish these figures any place on like on our website and in a location that even a moderately able computer able individual could find? we submit an annual report, and it is sfenvironment.org, and it is there, i believe. >> i would like to encourage us to think about other sort of easier

and i see we have a comment request from commissioner josefowitz. >> i thought that was fascinating. i learned some stuff. i now feel guilty about doing the wrong thing. i had a few questions about the plastic bag about just sort of does it apply to both? are there also follow-up materials that are kind of summary -- >> absolutely. the first level outreach we did, we sent the mailings to all the restaurants in the city that had a letter outlining the ordinance. we offered ethics spec sheets that answered questions, the placard you saw. we started robust the door to door campaign, the material window stickers, we showed posters and more placards. we started [speaker not understood], asking door to door, ask any questions. we've been continuing to offer the materials. furthermore, our website has a resource page for restaurants and retail establishments to go download more copies of this material in most of the languages. >> do you think you'll reach all -- what proportion of the restaurants i guess do you think you'll reach? >> i'd say all of them. we plan to reach all of them. >> fan

ready to bring it to the commission. >> okay. >> could i propose that >> sure. >> commissioner josefowitz makes a motion to continue to the call of the chair after the consideration of the discussions >> could we get a second. >> second. >> all of those in favor. >> aye. >> motion passes item is continued number nine, please? >> rerue and approval of the draft resolution f,, 2013-12 in support of the department of envier menment's grant brown field's out reach services and you have a copy of the draft and the environmental justice program manager and perry language the black coalition on aids and this is a discussion and action item. >> thank you very much. and welcome. >> i am annie eng and we do a lot of multitasking and i am also as serving as the program manager for the green building program. and with me is rami co-worker and he has been with the environmental justice program and he does a lot of multitasking and works with the energy program as well. but, we are here to present and ask for your approval of the resolution to grant an award to black coalition on aids to perform brown

. >> commissioner josefowitz agrees. what do you think? >> fine with me. >> all right. >> all right. >> so, public comment on this item? >> and seeing none, and dr. jackson just came in, dr. jackson no comment on the policy report, okay, next item is number 1 4. >> commissioner secretaries report and commissioners in your packet you have a copy of the report and since the last meeting and in addition there is a correspondence log of all correspondence received and status to date. the break was in august and so, there are not a lot of items to report and also, a notice to the department heads and the commissions in the elthick's commission was received in the new electronic requirement of the statement and the economic form starting in 2014 and the request was sent to provide the commission secretary with the e-mail address and the contact information to the ethics commission which is due by november 27th. and the office of the city attorney, and there was a memorandum and all political activity by the city officers and sfaoe employees and

>> commissioner josefowitz? >> no. >> item 19 please? >> >> public comment on memberss of the public may address the commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. >> >> jackson again, and i came and especially i came before this committee, and a year ago. about a building at 3453rd street where there was to be a wellness interview and in that area is very toxic. and it is close to the sewage plant which is very toxic. and right at the area there, they have the railroad tracks and they have the train coming in there and it is not a safe area but the children or adults to be in that area, and i had requested that this body do environmental impact, you know, study, for that area. because, what i have found out, as of yesterday, there is, i will not talk about that, any way, what i would like to see whether or not you all will please help my community, the people are dying, from the toxic out there. and we don't know children not seeing as anyone else being in that area because of the toxic th

. >> commissioner josefowitz. commissioner king. thank you. >> let me ask this a different way. eric, i'm forgetting your name. >> [speaker not understood]. >> okay. is there a part of this -- i guess what some people are concerned about is from the things that are still lingering out there like pla agreements and, you know, for those of us that care about kind of, you know, where the energy is coming from initially or whatever. if you can bundle some of the stuff at minimum in california. for those of us that care about that kind of stuff, is this particular vote take us over the threshold that locks us into what they have already, like all of these thing that have not been answered yet, you know, does this vote lock you in to some of these things? does it make it -- do we lose a leverage point that makes it harder to negotiate the pla agreement and things of that nature? and i think that's for some of us, that's what we're concerned about, these different points that are leverage points for us to make sure we can get what we can get at the front end so that this will progress