one of his daughters, joselyn, following in his footsteps, is now a state judge, too so growing up, youalk often. so she had a front row seat as he made headlines from the bench of the murdaugh trial. >> i knew it was a big deal. but it happened even before that, just scrolling through instagram and seeing a "dateline" post about alex murdaugh was just amazing. i am pretty sure i took a screen shot of that and sent it around to the family. >> reporter: he plans to retire this fall as his legal career comes to a close, he reflected on murdaugh and his most high-profile case. >> felt sorry for him. felt that he was just in a position where he could not -- where if there is a hole that he could go into, he would dive into that hole and keep going to the lowest depths. i wasn't trying to pull him out of that hole, but i wanted to give him an opportunity to say something. >> reporter: alex murdaugh still maintains he did not kill his wife and son there were certain questions that judge newman declined to answer because this is a case that is being appealed it is also interesting to point out