. >> my name is joseph abugosh. i own a small business. we share the same issues and the same problems. i think that they covered everything they need to cover on the issue. the food carts are able to offer cheaper prices and it makes it easy for the customers to choose the vendors at the food carts over us. that went to the point. >> thank you. >> is there any other public comment? seeing none, we'll have rebuttal from the appellant. 3 minutes. please step forward. >> mohammed zagir, owner of oasis grill. so i opened this business, it was a 300-square-footrest rant called oasis grill. it's at 91 drum street. after huge effort, we became very, very popular at the embarcadero. people love our halal food and we provide super friendly service to the people in the embarcadero. i feel that my business is being targeted. they want to do exactly the same way we do it. same menu. same style how we do our wraps and this kind of stuff. so they came at 425 market, two blocks away from us. and we felt like, okay, one halal cart. we can deal with it. w