is also-- name joseph anton, which is also the name of his memoir. >> i walked into bookshops and i see plenty of things that offend me, but it does not occur to me to burn the bookshop down. >> the book recounts what it was like living under a fatwa for more than a decade. today, he lives in new york and no longer requires police protection. he continues to fight for a freedom of expression, including four things like the film currently incurring -- including for things like the film currently incurring outrage in the arab world. >> it is very important to hold the line. >> it is a view he will continue to champion on all the stops of his latest book tour. >> corporate news, ikea has hit the headlines for airbrushing women out of their catalogs in saudi arabia. the swedish firm says its sorry -- it is sorry, but that does not change the issue of gender and the quality in a country where women are still not allowed to vote or drive cars. >> ikea's fun and forward- thinking image has made its furniture and fixture in households around the world, but that reputation is under threat am

[laughter] your sue done mouse alter ego, joseph anton lived on for quite a while. >> i was just ten years long. [laughter] >> what was it like thinking this thing was about to be settled and then being dashed all the time? >> i think that -- the problem of how long it went on was very difficult to write about. it wasn't that there were people shooting at me through the window. it wasn't dramatic. it was just this sense that it was never going to end. it just went on and on and on which is why i use somewhere in the book this image from an argentinean write where he talks about the pampas in argentina. he says you can't take a photograph of them. they look like a field. that's it. the only way you experience them is by traveling through them. and then they just go on and on and on and on and on and on, and they're always the same, and they go on and on, and they're always the same, and they go on and on and on, and they're always the same. >> uh-huh. >> and that's what it was like. it was like, it was like being in that situation of a situation that just endlessly went on. >> and dur

now salman rushdie has written a memoir titled joseph anton, the code name he used both on two of his favorite authors. welcome to you. >> thank you. before we get to the fatwa one of the things that fascinated was the description of your early years in india and educated in england. you present yourself as a secular muslim. but one trying to understand the religion and your role in it. >> i mean i grew up in a family in which there was very little religion. my father wasn't religious at all. but he was really interested in the subject of, you know, the birth and growth of islam. he basically transmitted that interest to me. so when i studied history at cambridge, i did a special subject in that exactly. while i was studying it was where i came across the so-called incident of the satanic verses. >> brown: you say in the book you noted good story. >> 20 years later i find out how good a story it was. >> brown: you wrote when you finished the satanic verses you thought it was the least political of the novels you had written at the time. you were genuinely surprised at what had happene

[laughter] >> why a day deride joseph anton in the third person? >> because i tried to write in the first person. i did not like it. i did not like the tone of it. of the. shut up. [laughter] i had the idea to write it like it all with the skill of the novel list. if i was describing myself and everybody else he or she then it is over the privileged. but even if my character is another person i can write about everybody at the same level. to suggest person i was writing about is not exactly the same. the self that his writing the book has gone through that experience and hopefully learned something from it. and is much older. now i am 65. writing about the traces and decisions. also the younger cell under colossal pressure. >> allot of my friends would say when this and did in my fifties. people would say you look younger now. i think so. is slightly different. it became easier. what we've just see what happens to put it in the third person. it was like the lightbulb moment. i know how to do this. >> after that you stop thinking about it from the f

cable satellite corp. 2012] >> he spent nine years in hiding using the alias theanton -- alias joseph anton. later today, he talks about it at george washington university. it will be live on-line on booktv.org. join us for repair of debates for u.s. senate seats. at 8:00, two former governors vying for the job, tim kaine and george allen. after that, at two -- the two men vying for teh seat in montana. >> providing live and on the man coverage of all the debates. it's the only place where you will see live coverage of behind-the-scenes sight and sound. they have each debate question available as a separate clip. you can watch your created clips and other reactions at the debate hub. c-span.org/debates. >> last wednesday, the american legion's commander said the department of veterans affairs growing backlog of claims is creating mistrust among berrigan's -- veterans. they held a joint hearing on legislative priorities of veterans service organizations. they said the va's efforts have not produced positive results. this is just over 90 minutes. >> good morning, everybody. thank you so much

the book is "joseph anton: a memoir." salman rushdie, thank you so much. the studio. >> thank you. >> he's got a lot of followers on twitter, too. >> i'm very envious. >> he's big. >> feel free to follow. >> i was going to say, you're going to have four more after today. >> roger bennett joins us next. look who he's talking to. what's going on? >> football. roger bennett talking english premier league football next. >> with louis. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. i'd like to thank eating right, whole gra