joseph ashby, who's director general of your pin space agency, jim and his alexander guest has spent about a year on the international space station during the 2 emissions. a welcome both shaking hands with an actual space man, so based on going get watched again quickly. so let's start with you. joseph ashbrook, i'm we had in the report. that's the your hopes that this year that if this is the stuff that i'm vicious, new era to achieve, what effect uh, just last weekend cvd, we had the space on mid to and that this based on did we really decided on the bottom of the m shift of how we wanted the space in the future. that means much more competition and doing it about a different way of this is done for long show us on one side, but also for exploration. that means to, to have a, a call go of the he co, that things kind of go up to the space station is talking dear. i'm just thinking again cargo down to the surface and this is a cup ability, which you'll have doesn't have to day. and we want to develop this in competition and composition. so who will be competing for want industry, we