joining me, josephine terry, the mother of murdered patrol agent brian terry and joseph haier, chairmanhonor brian terry.com. a foundation. good morning to both of you. josephine, we had to look deep into google searches to find the last news item on this story. what is the last you have on it in the search for your answers? >> we haven't heard anything for almost a year 1/2, anything we do here we find out on our own. bill: what contact have you had with lawmakers, josephine? >> no contact at all, with anybody. we haven't heard from the from the president. we haven't heard from eric holder. we haven't heard from anybody. bill: well they, the effort to get the documents is at the heart of this. there has been a holdup for some time, but you know the president has talked about executive privilege. eric holder has been held in contempt of congress on this. do you think this is stuck where it is now for good? >> no, i don't think so. i think eventually that they will be released and, i pray every day that that happens. bill: do you have a hunch what they will tell us? >> well, i think they