if you're going to have one person that agrees with you as a former fed official an economist joseph gagnon i've actually interviewed him before he was quoted in washington post saying i like it there is nothing that's obviously economically problematic about it talking about this trillion dollar coin idea but ever the thing that i comes up to me is and i understand the argument about accounting and this is just kind of the cold hard facts about money creation the stone age but doesn't that not take into account the fact that we're all human beings we all make decisions based on psychology and behavior and to everybody that's kind of watching this i mean could it freak people out that the government is just really in a dollar they're going to end up causing a mint bank account it should freak them out the so-called leader of the free world is having this ridiculous debate do you really think that in switzerland in germany they're having debt ceiling debates as the german government has eighty percent debt to g.d.p. and they're saying no we have to you know stable that we know of course not