i think the joseph gray is still here.is a coordinator in the natural areas division, and this is what you have heard about, with -- this is supplemented with a volunteer hours. maryann is here. she keeps the trains running on time. ramona had to leave and she does a lot of the community affairs. we are doing face painting and those things, to coordinate all of that. we will discuss more about the youth stewardship program, where the school kids in san francisco, for learning in the parks. we're fortunate to have volunteers every year who run this program. there was david chang, and david brought the program for the first time into the classrooms were spanish was the primary language spoken. we are in many ways indebted to the volunteers, in terms, especially david for that. last but not least -- >> you were suggesting -- we have a couple of commissioners to have to leave but we want to hear what you have to say. kimberly is a new director of the division. we are quite lucky to have her here. >> i will try to make this ver