professor leonard: i just have to bring joseph holt into the conversation.ike to tell the story that as lincoln is being murdered in washington, joseph holt, who will become the chief prosecutor of the conspirators, not booth because he is dead by then, he is in charleston on the 14th in fort sumner, giving a very profound and angry speech completely at odds with the "malice towards none" approach. his speech was entitled "treason and its treatment," and it is all about punishments, although not for the common southern people before the leadership. he wants to go after all of them -- jefferson davis, robert e. lee, henry wirz, anybody he can find he would like to go after all of them. and this is before he knows the president has been killed, so by the time -- and he was very fond of lincoln and worked very well with him since 1862 and he is , going to take that whole mentality, plus stanton's conviction, which holds shares that davis had set the whole thing into motion right after -- right into the months of may and june and july when a trials go on. profes

>> henry for joseph holt, who prosecuted the conspirators -- well, i should back up and say at that conspiracy trial henry was very present in the testimony and in the government's case against the conspirators because the government was trying to prove not just the local conspiracy against lincoln, but this much larger conspiracy and time to get assassination to all kinds of heinous acts on the part of the confederacy. andersonville and henry were part of that habit. so i think for hold, he did certainly stumble in his efforts to hand the tail on jefferson davis. but henry was another target for him. and, in some earth, kind of the last cast of at least -- gasp of at least his ability to extract or to inflict punishment in the way that he felt punishment to be inflicted on confederate leaders. >> just a word -- they were into collation in the north. and aroused people as deeply as you can say the photographs, the newsreels that the soldiers took in the concentration caps on the 20th century. they were horrific. dr. elizabeth leonard: they were horrific, and i find it interesting that he was n

>> henry for joseph holt, who prosecuted the conspirators -- well, i should back up and say at that conspiracy trial henry was very present in the testimony and in the government's case against the conspirators because the government was trying to prove not just the local conspiracy against lincoln, but this much larger conspiracy and time to get assassination to all kinds of heinous acts on the part of the confederacy. andersonville and henry were part of that habit. so i think for hold, he did certainly stumble in his efforts to hand the tail on jefferson davis. but henry was another target for him. and, in some earth, kind of the last cast of at least -- gasp of at least his ability to extract or to inflict punishment in the way that he felt punishment to be inflicted on confederate leaders. >> just a word -- they were into collation in the north. and aroused people as deeply as you can say the photographs, the newsreels that the soldiers took in the concentration caps on the 20th century. they were horrific. dr. elizabeth leonard: they were horrific, and i find it interesting that he was n