near the end of the bill's second reading on october 15, virginia representative joseph lewis, richard bland lee's representative, incidentally, successfully moved an amendment to the bill appropriating half a million dollars for the reconstruction of the public buildings at washington. with their bluff called, enough supporters of the bill abandoned it and voted with opponents 83-74 not to engross the bill for a third reading. as i mentioned earlier, it would be the last time the issue of removal came before congress until after the civil war. in part, this was because ironically the outrage over the burnings caused americans to begin at last to take pride in their alternately muddy or dusty seat of federal government. thank you very much. [ applause ] any questions? yes. >> i'm wondering if i could ask you maybe to hypothesize a little with me, especially in the face of those terrible quotations about washington city and how horrible it was. this is the kind of thing that's so very hard to prove directly unless you're lucky to get a really good source. one of the reasons i thought th

lewis represent accountability. once they achieved political power they remembered their backgrounds as civil rights activist. it is an extrordinary situations. >> host: peniel joseph, what was stokely carmichael's reputation among those on the ground? >> guest: before becoming a black power activist he is well known. before he is an icon and in the front page of the new york time s he was someone people knew has a snick activist. john lewis and him were friends. and he remembered he instantly liked stokely carmichael. among young people and activist he had a good reputation. he was stubborn and cracked wise jokes. king loved him like a little brother. stokely wasn't in awe of anyone. >> host: congressman clyburn would you agree with that? >> guest: yes. i was in south carolina, i remember, we went to raleigh, north carolina easter weekend in 1960. part of that where talk about in my book because you take rosa par parks. parks was a phenomenal part of the case and when you read the court case that desegregated transit there was a footnote in the rosa parks case that said we didn't have to determine the rule on this issue. we have already made that determination in