. >> joseph lowndes, from the new deal to the new right you argue that modern conservatism was founded in the south. why? >> the reason i make that claim is that i think, often people talk about southern strategy and capture of the south guy the g.o.p., after that he 1960s, beginning with goldwater and then, in nixon's 1972 election but i think in some ways, the situation is the reverse, that southerners played a key role in the development, both first in the conservative capture of the republican party, itself, and then, of republican ascendancy nationally and southern segregationist politics and northern conservatism were blended over time by various political actors in a way that allowed a national language of kind of racial resentment and opposition to federal state power and the democratic party generally. >> well, two questions arise from that answer, number one, how did they blend, and when did it begin? >> i think the story begins, decisively in the 1940s, the 1930s in congress, there is a conservative coalition which comes together after 1936, to resist some of fdr's political