one is joseph mccarthy, and the other other is the william jenner. jenner made mccarthy look like a pipsqueak when it came to the attack on marshall. called him a traitor to the country, selling the country out, and it's amazing to watch. eisenhower deeply admired marshall, and he was just completely and absolutely flabbergasted by this, and yet it comes time for eisenhower to go to indiana and campaign, and jenner is right up there, pumping his hand and keeps racing icessen hour's hand to rave at the people, and eisenhower is like, i don't know if i want to do this, but does it. and there's the famous moment in the eisenhower has a speech in which he is going to be giving on the train with mccarthy, and he has him -- part that i kind of pretty explicit attack on mccarthy saying, you've gone too far and you shouldn't dishonor, honorable men and that language, and his advisor says you have to take this out. and they try to play it up to him. it feels kind of like you're adding something on at the last moment. but we all know it was his chance to say i'

it's during this campaign that joseph mccarthy makes one of the most vicious and i think in some ways it's a vicious election and i have that part of the story but with mccarthy, during 1952 election, he comes up with this amazing quote recess if somebody would only smuggle me aboard the time it at a campaign special with a baseball bat in my hand, i teach patriotism to little ad life. that is what he called adlai stevenson and i will get to him. you call them add light or sometimes he called them alger with the idea that he is like alger hiss, communist spy at the time. there is also whittaker chambers and the great american theologian who helped to kind of advise nixon about in some ways his political philosophy so a a lot of behind-the-scenes guys are giving advice to richard nixon to go straight to the media to engage in what we would call telepopulism and there's also this surprise cameo of charlie chaplin who is operated out of the country in 1952 as a part of the larger red scare. nixon wanted him out of the country and was taking his cues from a wild gossip column at the time

c-span: you say he worked for joseph mccarthy, why? uest: well, he left -- he believed that something had to be done about the communist conspiracy in the country, and mccarthy was the only person doing it. and, you know, considering a large part of the book, is how bobby kennedy changed. it's an evolution. he sayings to somebody all that happened was i got older. i don't think that is all that happened. he changed as a human being in too something by the end of the book, you see something different. when he was a young prosecutor for first mccarthy's and john's committee, liberals called him a -- if you see newsreels of him, questioning witnesses in this way, you know, not giving them a chance to answer, you know. he was a very hard nosed militant prosecutor. c-span: so you go back to the '60 convention. >> guest: yes. c-span: why did john f kennedy offer johnson the vice presidency? >> guest: can i say first, nobody knows what is in somebody's mind. he had -- in retrospect, we see, and i think that john f kennedy saw it >> the begin n

people were being, you know, looked at for possible communistic sighs, this was arou around the joseph mccarthyles went up to a few months before her death, focused on a trip she took to mexico in early 1962, so, yeah, this is a little bit after the mccarthy era, but still a lot of concerns about communism. and whether celebrities and hollywood stars had ties to it. >> did these documents reveal anything new about her death? >> not really. all the stuff that the bureau had received previously, and these were letters and news clippings, they were questioning how she died, had already been unsealed. there was no indication in the new files that the fbi ever participated in any of the investigation about her death. >> what other questions are left unanswered about marilyn monroe? >> you know, i think some people still have questions about, you know, the investigation, the quality of it. it's important to note that the los angeles district attorney's office 20 years after her death took a look at the investigation and concluded that there was no evidence that a homicide had occurred, and that findi

one political figure that i admire is up on the mantra near patrick joseph mccarthy, who was mare in 1907 and 1909. the first born mayor. he went through very difficult childhood but went on to study at harvard and become a lawyer and come back to providence and make a huge difference. we have seen how different ethnics groups. the irish came faced challenges, over came them and having very successful. made their mark. mayor mccarthy example of that. italians came and faced challenges well and very involved in government. you seen a wave of latino immigrants now making marks and facing challenge and doing everything to be successful. it's interesting to see how it repeats itself. i'm leaving out some groups but we've had so many wonderful immigrants that made proffer -- providence what it is. >> "washington journal" continues. >> we want to welcome back senator john hoeven the republican of north dakota. the former governor of the state. as you begin 113th congress, will it be different from the last one? guest: we face real challenge and we need to have bipartisan solution to addres