morally responsible. if i hadn't have asked david to get these pictures, maybe it wouldn't happen. i did not intend for joseph what he's going to say, but how is he going to say it? what's his demeanor like? are the jurors going to like him or not? those are all relevant factors. >> we learn from jurors that they didn't like mike dixon, not necessarily his testimony, they didn't like him. >> i thought he was his worst witness. i'll admit the longer he was on the stand the harder he was to believe. >> he had an ego that was larger than life. anytime he starts talking about whether something is morally right or wrong i knew at that point i could not believe what he -- what he was testifying to. >> the jury, they seem to appreciate haley's testimony. >> shepard's daughter, that was tough to sit and watch her have to go through this. >> but they did what you would hope jurors would do. it wasn't one thing. they looked at all the evidence. >> and you could tell dixon was running the show. i mean there was no doubt when you go through the evidence that he was -- as mr. powell stated, he was driving the school bus.