we need to build resilience, not resistance. >> suarez: well, joseph romm you began the conversationsaying had we listened to earlier projections we bead in better shape. if municipal leaders had gone to the people of that region and said "we've got to get ready, a storm is coming someday, it's going to cost x number of dollars to build in protections to the new york city subway system" would you have been able to raise that money? are people ready to hear that kind of argument? or is it now going to a veradly damaged system? >> well, i think you're absolutely right, ray. look, people warned katrina that new orleans needed to be able to withstand a category 5. they didn't design the levees to withstand it and we see what happened. now we see the same thing with sandy. i think the hope has to be that sandy isn't short for cassandra and that it's another warning that we ignore. absolutely people now have seen that you can in fact have the worst-case scenario, which was a flooding of the lower manhattan and i think any city along the eastern sea board has ask-to-ask themselves what woul